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Old 11-12-2012, 12:18 AM   #106
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The only place the register differs is that I have Armando Muniz top 10. Honestly I could make a thread with everyone against top 10 guys if people really wanted.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:20 AM   #107
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So add another one then?

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Old 11-12-2012, 12:23 AM   #108
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Thats so true!
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:43 AM   #109
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The only place the register differs is that I have Armando Muniz top 10. Honestly I could make a thread with everyone against top 10 guys if people really wanted.
Do it.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:03 AM   #111
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I see it becoming an uprising, but Im all for you doin it.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:06 AM   #112
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How about the rankings of Bunty Doran, Joe Curran, Rinty Monaghan, Jackie Paterson and Peter Kane's oppo'?
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ah who'd read it. Just you and me HoI. Just you and me.


Henry Armstrong 33-12-2
Emile Griffith 36-17-1
Ike Williams 33-15-1
Archie Moore 44-15-4
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:15 AM   #114
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Got 29-12-2 for Henry Armstrong, though I'm sure a few slipped the radar.

Williams and Griffith... WTF.

Robbo 44-13-2

After a 37-2 peak.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:22 AM   #115
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You, me and a couple others. This is only baee material, all era's are not equal.

What is different, LR?

SUGAR RAY ROBINSON's TOP 10 RATED OPPONENTS

Sugar Ray Robinson first appears in The Ring ratings on March 11, 1941. He debuts at No. 7 in the lightweight division.

1941: Sammy Angott (No. 1 LW) (@135)
1941: Maxie Shapiro (No. 9 LW) (@135)
1941: Fritzie Zivic (No. 1 WW)
-- Robinson debuts at No. 1 in the welterwight ratings after win over Zivic.
1942: Fritzie Zivic (No. 3 WW)
1942: Norman Rubio (No. 9 WW)
1942: Marty Servo (No. 7 WW)
1942: Sammy Angott (World LW Champ) (@ 147)
1942: Tony Motisi (No. 9 WW)
1942: Jake La Motta (No. 10 MW)
1942: Izzy Janazzo (No. 9 WW)
1942: Izzy Janazzo (No. 9 WW)
1943: Jake La Motta (No. 6 MW) - LOSS
1943: Jackie Wilson (No. 2 WW)
1943: Jake La Motta (No. 1 MW)
1943: Henry Armstrong (No. 2 WW)
1944: Vic Dellicurti (No. 10 MW)
1945: Tommy Bell (No. 6 WW(
1945: Jake La Motta (No. 3 MW)
1945: Jose Basora (No. 6 MW) - DRAW
1945: Jimmy McDaniels (No. 6 WW)
1945: Jake La Motta (No. 1 MW)
1946: Sammy Angott (No. 6 WW)
1946: Joe Curcio (No. 9 WW)
1946: Tommy Bell (No. 2 WW)
-- Wins vacant Welterweight title.
1947: Georgie Abrams (No. 3 MW)
1947: Jimmy Doyle (No. 6 WW)
1948: Bernard Docusen (No. 1 WW)
1948: Kid Gavilan (No. 1 WW)
1949: Kid Gavilan (No. 1 WW)
1949: Steve Belloise (No. 2 MW)
-- Robinson debuts at No. 1 at middleweight after win over Belloise. He still continues to hold the welterweight championship.
1950: George Costner (No. 2 WW)
1950: Robert Villemain (No. 2 MW)
1950: Charley Fusari (No. 5 WW)
1950: Robert Villemain (No. 4 MW)
1951: Jake La Motta (World MW Champion)
-- Robinson vacates welterweight title after win over LaMotta.
1951: Randy Turpin (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
1951: Randy Turpin (World MW Champion)
1952: Carl "Bobo" Olson (No. 5 MW)
1952: Rocky Graziano (No. 9 MW)
1952: Joey Maxim (World LHW Champion) - LOSS
-- Robinson retires for 30 months after loss to Maxim. Decidedly 'past-prime' here on.
1955: Rocky Castellani (No. 2 MW)
1955: Carl "Bobo" Olson (World MW Champion)
1956: Carl "Bobo" Olson (No. 1 MW)
1957: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) -LOSS
1957: Gene Fullmer (World MW Champion)
1957: Carmen Basilio (World WW Champion) (@160)
1958: Carmen Basilio (World MW Champion)
1959: No fights vs. top contenders
1960: Paul Pender (No. 8 MW) - LOSS
1960:,Paul Pender (World MW Champion) - LOSS
1960: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) - DRAW (Bowlshit)
1961: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
1961: Denny Moyer (No. 9 MW)
1962: Denny Moyer (No. 9 MW) - LOSS
1962: Terry Downes (No. 3 MW) - LOSS
1963: Ralph Dupas (No. 3 WW) (@160)
1963: Joey Giardello (No. 3 MW) - LOSS
1964: No fights vs. top 10 contenders
1965: Stan Harrington (No. 9 MW) - LOSS
1965: Hoey Archer (No. 4 MW) - LOSS
-- Robinson retires after loss to Archer.

Losses against unrated opponents:
Ralph "Tiger" Jones (1955)
Phil Moyer (1962)
Mick Leahy (1964)
Memo Ayon (1965)
Stan Harrington (1965)
Fred Hernandez (1965)
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:23 AM   #116
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Its very instructive. Williams lost his last 5 or 6. Those records are actually very good. Most guys don't sniff 30 wins. Burley didn't, Carlos Ortiz had about 21. The only three guys who have 40 wins against top 10 guys are Robinson, Charles, and Moore. That's elite company.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:28 AM   #117
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Its very instructive. Williams lost his last 5 or 6. Those records are actually very good. Most guys don't sniff 30 wins. Burley didn't, Carlos Ortiz had about 21. The only three guys who have 40 wins against top 10 guys are Robinson, Charles, and Moore. That's elite company.
That's what the facepalm meant.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:31 AM   #118
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For Robinson I have Pete Lello (typo?) Ranked in 41, Ralph Zanelli in 43, Jannazzo in 44. Curcio is unranked in mine.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:32 AM   #119
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Its very instructive. Williams lost his last 5 or 6. Those records are actually very good. Most guys don't sniff 30 wins. Burley didn't, Carlos Ortiz had about 21. The only three guys who have 40 wins against top 10 guys are Robinson, Charles, and Moore. That's elite company.
I don't know if you feel like wasting (Investing) the time in doing it, but I would prefer to see the records against top 5 opponents. Maybe even top 3.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:32 AM   #120
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That's what the facepalm meant.
Oh. Carry on. Although i'm shocked that Griffith has that many wins.
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