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Old 11-12-2012, 01:35 AM   #121
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I don't know if you feel like wasting (Investing) the time in doing it, but I would prefer to see the records against top 5 opponents. Maybe even top 3.
Hands of iron would be the man. I can only say if they are top 10.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:37 AM   #122
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How about the rankings of Bunty Doran, Joe Curran, Rinty Monaghan, Jackie Paterson and Peter Kane's oppo'?
Were talking real boxers Flea not made up guys!
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:41 AM   #123
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Oh. Carry on. Although i'm shocked that Griffith has that many wins.
Exactly.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:12 AM   #124
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Oh. Carry on. Although i'm shocked that Griffith has that many wins.
I'm not. And I bet Gil Turner has 10+
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:17 AM   #125
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Flea,

Mike Tyson: 13-4

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(Counting Golota a win)
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:19 AM   #126
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I'm not. And I bet Gil Turner has 10+

Gil Turner does have e 10 plus Flea.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:22 AM   #127
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So how bout Duran Vs DLH at 140!?...
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:35 AM   #128
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Flea,

Mike Tyson: 13-4

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(Counting Golota a win)
Take his age into account when picking up most of those and the fashion in which he did it and it becomes a tad more impressive
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:39 AM   #129
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Some other HW's... Little Red's list may be different by a couple here or there.

Ali: 32-5
Louis: 30-3
Holmes: 20-5
Lewis: 15-2-1
Tyson: 13-4
Holyfield: 11-7-2 (HW only)
Marciano: 11-0


Frazier, Liston, Foreman...

BIG George didn't really fight too many, of course he blasted Frazier and Norton to smitherines and won back the title 20 years on from losing it.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:44 AM   #130
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So how bout Duran Vs DLH at 140!?...
Duran decision, too many tools, too much stamina.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:08 AM   #131
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Duran decision, too many tools, too much stamina.

Your right!..Duran was just too much dor DLH..You may even see and early KO Fleaman!
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:10 AM   #132
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Duran decision, too many tools, too much stamina.
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I dont believe to many people would put Duran losing to DLH, especially at 140
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:21 AM   #134
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Right so you're giving Trinidad and Mosley 2 fights and saying he won Quartey and Whitaker? I think you're either a big fan or rate late round flurries highly regardless of them landing I certainly had him losing to Whitaker and Quartey as many others did. For the record a judge who had him beating Quartey had him losing to Trinidad.

Forrest was on his horizon from around '98 from my recollection, nothing wrong with it not happening then obviously with the bigger fights around, but Forrest was unbeaten until '03.

Oscar certainly isn't better than Forrest, Winky & Ike. Quartey outboxed him for about 9 rounds, Forrest did far better in 2 fights with Mosley as did Winky

Anyway I'd rank Mayweather and Hopkins above Delahoya by a margin, they're just allot better boxers for various reasons
Oscar def' beat Tito & SSM the 2nd time, Sweet Pea & Ike were very close and could have gone either way, Oscar finished well vs Ike and was the agressor vs Pea.

I don't remember Forrest being a potental contender for Oscar while he was at WW, thought Oscar was on the way out when he was on the way up. No way Forrest is better than Oscar, Mayorga even out boxed him.

Winky and Ike are nowhere near Oscar

25% of Hopkins MW defences were against Allen and Echols, Hopkins had to leave his own division because he could not beat Jermain Taylor.

Mayweathers own division finally started to get some good comp' so he retires , then ducked a former FW for health reasons.

I am just a fan of any boxer that takes on all comers, esp' if they have cleaned out their own division
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:26 AM   #135
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Your right!..Duran was just too much dor DLH..You may even see and early KO Fleaman!
Absolutely no chance of an early K.O. Duran may go down early to a left hook, like DeJesus.

Also, no need to quote my post twice.
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