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Old 11-12-2012, 10:40 PM   #5851
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I'm a huge fan but i doubt it.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:49 PM   #5852
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Pacquiao gives shitty interviews. Always has. Your crusade against Pacquiao is pathetic and sad. Funny how your faggot Flomo ass can't see how suspicious it is that Floyd has a personal contract w/ USADA and how his lawyers blocked the release of the full test results.

Send me a link to where Mayweather blocked the release of PED test results?
I've never heard or read such thing. I'd think if Mayweather had done that, big new stations like ESPN would have reported it.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:51 PM   #5853
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yo the thread starter is a complete moron of epic status.

all 6 of your reasons are complete blasphemy.

the fact u believe your bullshit,only makes me pray for your kids,or that u never have them to fill them with your ignorance and retard syndrome.

do us all a favor and jump off a roof head first.pleae.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:51 PM   #5854
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yo the thread starter is a complete moron of epic status.

all 6 of your reasons are complete blasphemy.

the fact u believe your bullshit,only makes me pray for your kids,or that u never have them to fill them with your ignorance and retard syndrome.

do us all a favor and jump off a roof head first.pleae.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:53 PM   #5855
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Only idiots think his on steroids. But it doesent help his case when he made testing to be such a big deal and caused the biggest fight in boxing not to go ahead
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:14 PM   #5856
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Pacquiao gives shitty interviews. Always has. Your crusade against Pacquiao is pathetic and sad. Funny how your faggot Flomo ass can't see how suspicious it is that Floyd has a personal contract w/ USADA and how his lawyers blocked the release of the full test results.

And you don't have a smear campaign against Floyd? The irony.

You're just as guilty as the Pac accusers for pointing your finger at Floyd as a drug suspect except your shit holds very little weight due to the fact that your guy wanted an easy way out when it comes to strict drug testing. Why did he turn down VADA testing for his fight with Bradley? Why won't he go through stringent testing for his fight(s) with JMM when Juan suggested it? It's so simple for him to erase the cloud of suspicion yet he prefers to evade a few extra blood tests.

I'm not saying Floyd is 100% clean, in fact I believe there's a high percentage of boxers (including my faves) who are juicing, but if there's anyone who's the biggest suspect in the sport it's your little Filipino God mainly due to his reluctance to undergo random testing. Stop acting like Pacquiao writes you a check every month. He doesn't. And his choir boy attitude/appearance means **** all when it comes to determining complete innocence.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:22 PM   #5857
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Shortly after, Floyd Mayweather SETTLED and PAID Pac an undisclosed sum of money. What the **** does that tell you, asshole?


You're an idiot. Medical records are not PED test results.

I would'nt want the public to get a hold of my medical records.
Neither should Pacquiao release his medical records..

Taking and releasing the results of PED test results is a different matter.
Those tests are taken for the purpose of them getting released to the public you moron!
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:27 PM   #5858
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He is so obviously blood doped that they have joked about it openly on TV. Most of the top tier boxers are cheating IMO. He's as much a filthy dirty cheat as the rest of the lot. The only difference is that he has legions of borderline mentally handicapped sycophants who believe any stupid crap Team Pac tells them.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:36 PM   #5859
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Pac's a scumbag.....just like Floyd....only difference is....Floyd is a better boxer....
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:49 PM   #5860
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Tards trying hard to justify his fear of needles.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:02 AM   #5861
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He's not a devastating puncher at any thing above 135 possibily 130. This is probbly why he's dragged his feet when it comes to a Mayweather fight. Sure he has a stoppage over David Diaz. A C+ boxer at 135 and that ko of Ricky Htton, who was damaged goods at 147. To stop Cotto he had to bring the fight to 145. De La Hoya had no busniss at 147. He had target practice with Josh Clottey and Tony Margarito, and couldn't stop either. Mosley who was faded gave him some fits. Marquez who only got the fight due to the fact he looked bad against Mayweather at the same weight. Most people belive beat him. Had Bradley showed power qat 140 the fight at 147 would not have been made. Pacquiao had used the testing as an excuse not to fight Mayweather.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:32 AM   #5862
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Pacquiao's Body Hasn't Changed Much

Pac's body has filled out as he's gone up in weight, but by and large, his body has remained the same. He's always been lean and has looked less shredded than his days in the lower weight classes. His body size has looked the same from the Hatton fight to the Bradley fight. Compared to most junior welters and welters, Pac looks like a little twirp.

Pac has NOT undergone a physical change that would suggest that he's roiding. No one, neither writer nor boxing fan, has observed a significantly transformed body. The head size argument is just gay as **** considering that there are pictures of Pacquiao as a teenager sporting an unusually massive dome.


Pacquiao Has Never Been a Dirty Fighter


He doesn't rabbit punch, punch nutsacks, throw elbows, push heads down (intentionally), or retaliate (Barrera for punching on the break, Sanchez's headbutts and low blows). When Pac punched Marquez when Marquez was hanging on the ropes, it was more out of momentum and over excitement than being dirty. He let up on Margarito and practically begged the ref to stop the fight. Also, watch the end of the Diaz fight. Pac goes to check on Diaz, but is ushered away. Pure class.


Pacquiao Hasn't KO'D Anyone in 3 Years

Pac couldn't knock Cotto out. The stoppage occurred due to accumulation and Bayless having seen enough. Cotto wasn't out on his feet or knocked around like a rag doll at any point. Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, Marquez, and Bradley all lasted the distance. No one, not even Cotto, has said that Pac punches with frightening power. Yet they've all attributed his effectiveness to speed and angles.

Pac's power clearly has not carried up to the higher weights. The Hatton KO was a combination of the perfect punch being thrown aided by Hatton turning into it. And if you need anymore proof, Marquez said after their third meeting that Pac punched harder in their previous 2 fights.


Pacquiao NEVER refused Olympic Style Drug Testing

I repeat - Pac has NEVER refused Olympic Style Drug Testing. Pac wanted a cut-off date so as to finish the weeks leading up to the fight (the Fight of the Century!) with no interruption. Pac agreed to unlimited urine samples up until the day of the fight and a blood test immediately after the fight.

And there is no question whatsoever that Floyd was just trying to muscle Pac around to gain a mental advantage. They say boxing is 100% mental, and Floyd is no doubt the sport's biggest practitioner of pre-fight mental warfare. One more time for the Flomos - Pac NEVER refused Olympic Style Drug Testing!


Pacquiao Has Repeatedly Demonstrated a Genuine Desire to Help Others

Aside from being a very clean fighter in the ring, Pac's personality outside of the ring (aside from the boozing and debauchery) doesn't reflect the actions of an individual that possesses a win at all costs mentality. He didn't need to go into politics, especially at the height of his boxing career. With his celebrity status, he could have easily lived off of endorsements, acting, and appearances. Instead, he took on a shit paying political job which requires him to dig deep into his bank account often. I'm not saying he's a saint or anything, but he's definitely helped out his country.


Pacquiao Told the Truth When the Best and Easiest Thing He Could Have Done Was Lie His Ass Off

When the whole debacle about homo***uality went down (no pun intended), on something Pac didn't even say, tons of major newspapers and gossip sites picked it up and ran with it. GLAAD and human rights groups furiously demanded that Nike drop him immediately. A mall owner sent out a statement saying that Pac was no longer welcome to make an appearance. Things were looking very ugly for Pac as he found himself at the center of one of America's hot button issues.

The best and easiest thing Pac could have done was to apologize, blame context, and say that everyone deserves to be happy and marry whoever they wanted. What did Pac do? He flat out said that he didn't agree with homo***uality and same *** marriage. This is a death knell for most people of celebrity status today, but he stuck with his guns and risked the good guy image (manufactured or not) and the potential repercussions.

This says to me that Pac's a pretty legit guy.

Thanks for reading.

this is really easy.

floyd had all the time in the world and a bunch of high-powered lawyers (well not as great as teh keyboard warriors here) and usada on his side, to prove otherwise, what happened?
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:33 AM   #5863
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Pacquiao's Body Hasn't Changed Much

Pac's body has filled out as he's gone up in weight, but by and large, his body has remained the same. He's always been lean and has looked less shredded than his days in the lower weight classes. His body size has looked the same from the Hatton fight to the Bradley fight. Compared to most junior welters and welters, Pac looks like a little twirp.

Pac has NOT undergone a physical change that would suggest that he's roiding. No one, neither writer nor boxing fan, has observed a significantly transformed body. The head size argument is just gay as **** considering that there are pictures of Pacquiao as a teenager sporting an unusually massive dome.


Pacquiao Has Never Been a Dirty Fighter


He doesn't rabbit punch, punch nutsacks, throw elbows, push heads down (intentionally), or retaliate (Barrera for punching on the break, Sanchez's headbutts and low blows). When Pac punched Marquez when Marquez was hanging on the ropes, it was more out of momentum and over excitement than being dirty. He let up on Margarito and practically begged the ref to stop the fight. Also, watch the end of the Diaz fight. Pac goes to check on Diaz, but is ushered away. Pure class.


Pacquiao Hasn't KO'D Anyone in 3 Years

Pac couldn't knock Cotto out. The stoppage occurred due to accumulation and Bayless having seen enough. Cotto wasn't out on his feet or knocked around like a rag doll at any point. Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, Marquez, and Bradley all lasted the distance. No one, not even Cotto, has said that Pac punches with frightening power. Yet they've all attributed his effectiveness to speed and angles.

Pac's power clearly has not carried up to the higher weights. The Hatton KO was a combination of the perfect punch being thrown aided by Hatton turning into it. And if you need anymore proof, Marquez said after their third meeting that Pac punched harder in their previous 2 fights.


Pacquiao NEVER refused Olympic Style Drug Testing

I repeat - Pac has NEVER refused Olympic Style Drug Testing. Pac wanted a cut-off date so as to finish the weeks leading up to the fight (the Fight of the Century!) with no interruption. Pac agreed to unlimited urine samples up until the day of the fight and a blood test immediately after the fight.

And there is no question whatsoever that Floyd was just trying to muscle Pac around to gain a mental advantage. They say boxing is 100% mental, and Floyd is no doubt the sport's biggest practitioner of pre-fight mental warfare. One more time for the Flomos - Pac NEVER refused Olympic Style Drug Testing!


Pacquiao Has Repeatedly Demonstrated a Genuine Desire to Help Others

Aside from being a very clean fighter in the ring, Pac's personality outside of the ring (aside from the boozing and debauchery) doesn't reflect the actions of an individual that possesses a win at all costs mentality. He didn't need to go into politics, especially at the height of his boxing career. With his celebrity status, he could have easily lived off of endorsements, acting, and appearances. Instead, he took on a shit paying political job which requires him to dig deep into his bank account often. I'm not saying he's a saint or anything, but he's definitely helped out his country.


Pacquiao Told the Truth When the Best and Easiest Thing He Could Have Done Was Lie His Ass Off

When the whole debacle about homo***uality went down (no pun intended), on something Pac didn't even say, tons of major newspapers and gossip sites picked it up and ran with it. GLAAD and human rights groups furiously demanded that Nike drop him immediately. A mall owner sent out a statement saying that Pac was no longer welcome to make an appearance. Things were looking very ugly for Pac as he found himself at the center of one of America's hot button issues.

The best and easiest thing Pac could have done was to apologize, blame context, and say that everyone deserves to be happy and marry whoever they wanted. What did Pac do? He flat out said that he didn't agree with homo***uality and same *** marriage. This is a death knell for most people of celebrity status today, but he stuck with his guns and risked the good guy image (manufactured or not) and the potential repercussions.

This says to me that Pac's a pretty legit guy.

Thanks for reading.


Pacquiao "god spoke to me while I was walking in a forest.".

o_money, "this guy's full of shit"

P.s. ya he did refuse OSDT. And then even if he didn't everyone in his team says no to it. Its the same game everytime. Pac says all the right things about making the fight. Most of which are in direct opposition with things said by his closest advisors. Fact is you don't know what he'll agree to cause there is too much serial bull shit that comes out of his mouth and ever one's around him.

p.s.s. All politics is local. Pac bashed gays cause it wins him votes with his constituents. You call that standing your ground? I call that being a bully. It's pathetic.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:34 AM   #5864
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All on PEDs accept it & move on.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:40 AM   #5865
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He is so obviously blood doped that they have joked about it openly on TV. Most of the top tier boxers are cheating IMO. He's as much a filthy dirty cheat as the rest of the lot. The only difference is that he has legions of borderline mentally handicapped sycophants who believe any stupid crap Team Pac tells them.

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