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Old 11-13-2012, 10:07 AM   #31
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Don ****ell, emerges as a Heavyweight Threat in 1953 -
Knockout (KO 7) ..... 40 year-old Tommy Farr (84-30-6)
Don ****ell beats up an 'old man'.

W Decision 15 ....... Johnny Williams (51-6-3)
Don ****ell wins the British and Commonwealth Heavyweight Championship,
by defeating a capable Champion.

W Split Decision 10 .... Light-Heavyweight Harry Matthews (84-4-6)
Don ****ell needs to score '3' knockdowns in Round 9, to squeeze out
a split-decision over a fighter he out-weighed by 31 lbs.

W Decision 10 ........... Italian Heavyweight - Uber Bacilieri (11-3-5)
Don ****ell looks sluggish, in winning a dull decision over a fighter he
out-weighed by 22 lbs.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:12 AM   #32
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The fact that ****ell emerged as the #2 contender probably shows how decimated the HW division was at the time.

Full credit to Marciano, he was the guy who 'cleaned out' the good old guard, and he ruined a few promising up-and-comers.
He was part of the reason the upper ranks of the division was looking empty by 1955.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:33 AM   #33
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July 31, 1954

British-Empire Heavyweight Champion - Don ****ell scores an impressive
victory (TKO 7) over Harry 'Kid' Matthews.

'Don ****ell Wants Champ Marciano Next'

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Old 11-13-2012, 10:55 AM   #34
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Saturday Night - July 31, 1954

Sicks Stadium - Seattle, Washington

Attendance; 16,000

#3 Heavyweight - Don ****ell..............66-11-1 (38 KO's)
vs.
#7 Heavyweight - Harry 'Kid' Matthews...86-6-6 (59 KO's)

25 1/2 year-old British Empire Heavyweight Champion - Don ****ell 5' 11" - 210 lbs. takes on
31 1/2 year-old American - Harry ''Kid' Matthews 6' 0" - 180 lbs. a 'third time'.

Their 'two' 'previous bouts were hard-fought close decision wins for the British Heavyweight.

Don ****ell is looking for his '10th-straight' win.

In this bout, after an 'Even' 1st-Round, Don ****ell took command in Round 2, and scored with numerous
left jabs and hard right hands on 'The Kid', throughout the next 4 Rounds.

In Round 6, ****ell bloodied Matthews nose with several smashing right hands, and had the
American dazed at the end of the round.

In Round 7, ****ell stalked the 'dazed' Matthews, and clobbered him with lefts and rights
that had him 'glassy eyed'. Near the end of the Round, ****ell landed a hard right hand
to the head, that 'staggered' Mathews.

Referee -James J. Braddock would not let Harry 'Kid' Matthews come out for Round 8.



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Old 11-13-2012, 11:22 AM   #35
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Bobo Olsen vs Mathews and the HWs?
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:44 PM   #36
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marciano fought bob baker, not don ****ell.
once again you've got me puzzled Suzie!
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:27 AM   #37
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I think he might be insinuating that "in ****ell there was No Fight", so his real opponent then should have been Bob Baker (?), or maybe stating that the fat pudgy ****ell was more a Baker, you know a lover of sweets & cakes. a little 'play' on words, given that Bob Baker was a then Contender!
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:35 AM   #38
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I think he might be insinuating that "in ****ell there was No Fight", so his real opponent then should have been Bob Baker (?), or maybe stating that the fat pudgy ****ell was more a Baker, you know a lover of sweets & cakes. a little 'play' on words, given that Bob Baker was a then Contender!
So,which option should I take then!
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:58 PM   #39
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I'd go with the second one... he who eats all the pies!
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:41 PM   #40
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When ESPN Calssic was broadcasting Rocky Marciano's tv show he had, where he went over his fights, after interviewing some celebrity or ex-boxer, he showed ****el fight. In his voice over and commentary, he said that going into bout, he knew that no mater what he did, it would lead to him getting no credit. He was constantly asked questions on ****ell, and told that even if he ko'd him, it would be "So what?" He said ****ell was better than people thought, he found that out as fight went on, and that guy took great shot and was very game.

Marciano woud have retired after second Charles fight, definitely after this one, if not for Archie Moore saying Marciano was ducking him.
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The fact that ****ell emerged as the #2 contender probably shows how decimated the HW division was at the time.

Full credit to Marciano, he was the guy who 'cleaned out' the good old guard, and he ruined a few promising up-and-comers.
He was part of the reason the upper ranks of the division was looking empty by 1955.
He did ruin guys who would have normally come back to contend. Harry Matthews, Rex Layne, LaStarza, Carmine Vingo (who almost died and had to retire) and even Ezzard Charles, none were same after Marciano kos.
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September 13, 1955

Just 4-months after his courageous effort against Champion - Rocky Marciano (L TKO 9).

Don ****ell, a super pudgy (218 lbs.) is battered and floored in Round 3,
and badly cut by the tall and raw Cuban Heavyweight - Nino Valdes.

The bout is stopped at the end of Round 3.

Don ****ell, 'Nino will destroy Marciano when they fight. He's bigger, faster, stronger and
punches harder. Rocky is really nothing, other than a clubbing club-fighter. Short arms,
wild swings and no defense.'
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Don ****ell, 'Nino will destroy Marciano when they fight. He's bigger, faster, stronger and
punches harder. Rocky is really nothing, other than a clubbing club-fighter. Short arms,
wild swings and no defense.'
I challenge you to provide a source for this
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:48 AM   #44
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April 24, 1956 (Tuesday Night)

Earl's Court, London, United Kingdom

The career of 27 year-old 'tubby' British-Empire Heavyweight - Don ****ell
should come to an end.

The 211 lb. Heavyweight was 'stopped (L KO 2) by Kitione Lave,
a 22 year-old - 200 lb. 'Tongan Torpedo'.

****ell was 'dropped' in the 1st-round by the little known Lave, and
floored again in Round 2.

The hard-punching Tongan, improved his record to 29-6-2 (25 KO's),
as he completely over-whelmed the courageous ****ell, who has now been
stopped in '3-straight' bouts.

Don ****ell now falls to 66-14-1, and will undoubtedly retire.

Don ****ell, 'I think Kitione has the right style to defeat Rocky Marciano.
He punches fast and hard, and is a more complete fighter than the Champion.
Rocky is strong, but he is getting older and slower. These young guys are too big,
and punch too fast.'

'The Tongan Torpedo'

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Senior Pepe,

Who do you favor between Marciano vs Valdes?
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