Tyson Fury vs. Kevin Johnson, December 1st

[Ilesey]

I'm not sure what sort of shape Johnson will be in. If he's in good shape, then he has a chance. If not, he could easily lose on points. I actually think this is a big step up for Fury.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by bigeddie27

I dont think he got robbed in the sense you are thinking. He definitely got robbed due to the fact Vitali was allowed 1:30 between rounds. Despicable.

I don't think Uncle Roger thinks he got robbed in the sense you think he was thinking.

That comment smacked of a trolling bit of sport.

[seansanashee]

I think this is gonna be a very good fight for Fury against a live world contender.

[UnleashtheFURY]

Probably boring.... Johnson will probably show up just to survive, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he spent most of the fight on the ropes just covering up like he did against Vitali.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Ilesey

I'm not sure what sort of shape Johnson will be in. If he's in good shape, then he has a chance. If not, he could easily lose on points. I actually think this is a big step up for Fury.

Their ideal realistic weights are probably 240 and 245 respectively. Other than length, there shouldn't be much of a size or strength discrepancy come fight night.

[RoughD]

I've seen fury wobbled numerous times
I got kingpin landing a unexpected bomb off the ropes and dropping the giant

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Earl-hickey

He did regress, until the rogan fight

since then he's tightened up a lot imo

Yeah, he looked tighter than Bieber fan pussy...against Vinny freaking Maddalone.

With Rogan, he sleepwalked through a couple of frames before waking up to TCOB - so you can't really lump that in with the Maddalone thrashing as evidence of him getting back on form.

He's had one bravissimo outing since June 2011, and it was against maybe the 9th best opponent of his career - someone who isn't a real threat to any top 30 heavy. (and no, Koval never was)

Even going back to his best W on paper, Chisora - that was the most inferior version of Derek from all four of his losses. He was markedly better against Helenius, Klitschko and Haye (all three of whom he managed to hassle to some degree; getting flat out robbed against Robbe) - and even on that night Fury didn't have it all his way against a green Chisora who would only go on to improve by leaps and bounds at world level, arguably more than Fury himself improved since then even taking into account having looked masterful against Vinny freaking Maddalone.

Do we really think a rematch might not look different at this point?

[dinovelvet]

When is that WBO convention , or has it happened already? Supposedly Haye is to be ranked no.1.

[madballster]

Originally Posted by RoughD

I've seen fury wobbled numerous times
I got kingpin landing a unexpected bomb off the ropes and dropping the giant

If Kingpin can maintain a decent workrate I think he'll be a tough fight for Fury. Johnson is tough to hit cleanly and he's got a long, snappy jab. Johnson is in a type of situation where he needs a big win, so it's pretty much all of nothing for him.

Fury on the other hand has a lot to lose. A defeat vs. Kingpin and his title shot dreams would likely have to be delayed by 2-3 years.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by madballster

If Kingpin can maintain a decent workrate I think he'll be a tough fight for Fury. Johnson is in a type of situation where he needs a big win, so it's pretty much all of nothing for him.

Fury on the other hand has a lot to lose. A defeat vs. Kingpin and his title shot dreams would likely have to be delayed by 2-3 years.

Unless he gets back on the fast track by giving Price a piece...

[Royal-T-Bag]

Fury will outhustle Johnson and win on points but look horribly sloppy and amateur in doing so. He'll hit a lot of gloves and air.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Royal-T-Bag

Fury will outhustle Johnson and win on points but look horribly sloppy and amateur in doing so. He'll hit a lot of gloves and air.

...and maybe bite off a counter right or two he won't like the taste of. (if Johnson cuts it loose)

I've got plenty of time for the idea Fury gets hurt, but very little faith in Johnson being able to finish him off.

[Royal-T-Bag]

Fury's team were smart picking a guy that has no workrate and no power to shatter his glass jaw

[Brickhaus]

Originally Posted by Royal-T-Bag

Fury's team were smart picking a guy that has no workrate and no power to shatter his glass jaw

On two weeks' notice, this was actually probably the best opponent they possibly could have got. Johnson's workrate doesn't always suck. He seemed scared of Vitali's power and just went on the defensive there. Perhaps he's more aggressive against Fury, who isn't that hard of a hitter.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Brickhaus

On two weeks' notice, this was actually probably the best opponent they possibly could have got.

I think it only just got finalized, but had been in negotiations for a month.

Originally Posted by Brickhaus

Johnson's workrate doesn't always suck. He seemed scared of Vitali's power and just went on the defensive there. Perhaps he's more aggressive against Fury, who isn't that hard of a hitter.

Johnson's eagerness to mix it up certainly has a lot to do with his confidence on the night. He did after all boss and stop the hard-charging but undersized Alex Leapai.

Fury hasn't got the same heavy hands as even the lighter-hitting Klitschko, but his size could be an intimidating factor.

Hell, Kingpin looked meek and timid against the smaller Tor Hamer. It could be he's unable to muster up any courage when stepping up in class at this point, in which case Fury could actually maul him into an inert shell and get that British style TKO.