Geale will beat Golovkin - Page 5

TheManBearPig · 11-13-2012, 07:44 AM

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fark.. ur not a useless prick after all

LOL It's nice to see that your opinion on me has changed a little. However, it's unfortunate that I still think you are a retard with small man syndrome. Hopefully that can change down the track

TCboxa · 11-13-2012, 07:46 AM

all good

Karaganda · 11-13-2012, 09:58 AM

Geale is chanceless against Golovkin. He does not have a small chance - he has no chance whatsoever.

Why? He holds no advantage in any section of a boxers arsenal. I base the analysis on the Sturm-Geale and the Golovkin-Proksa fights. Both fights are on Youtube - go and have a look.

Sturm-Geale
Geale walks forward, seemingly preferring to do battle on the inside with Sturm. Sturm has seemingly few objections to this. While Sturm seems to be the stronger man, landing the more accurate and significant shots, Geale is more active. This largely sums up the fight over the whole 12 rounds, it was scored to Geale but really could have gone either way.

Golovkin-Proksa
Golovkin walks forward trying to cut the ring. Proksa circles and potshots. It soon becomes apparent that he does not move well enough to avoid Golovkin’s jab or left hook, and later, the right. Proksa’s attacks does not at any point hurt Golovkin, and after round two his potshotting does not even cause Golovkin to blink. As Golovkin ups the pace in round three and onwards the fight turns into real beating.

The unfair comparison
Proksa retired Sebastian Sylvester in three rounds while Geale had to go 12 rounds to a split decision. Accordingly Golovkin will win easily over Geale. Not a fair comparison I would say. What happened? Sylvester had a major hole in his defense that only a Proksa-Martinez type of fighter could exploit. He keeps his guard up with both gloves really high while hunching forward. Proksa prefers to have his gloves around his waist to hide his angle of attack. The result was that while they are in the zone, Sylvester simply could not see Proksa’s gloves. Just dig out your old gloves from the closet and try it yourself! Sylvester fought blind, became totally demoralised and retired after three rounds.

The fair comparison
Geale walks forward a bit square without any final side-step or feint as he enters his opponents zone. This will be a major issue against Golovkin as he will not have any defensive advantage based on movement. Also, not possessing a fast, long or powerful jab means that he will have to take what Golovkin can dish out as he comes in. Based on what Geale did against Sturm, Geale will step on the gas and swarm Golovkin, Ouma used this to some effect in the early rounds of his fight against Triple-G. Big difference - Ouma was quick on his feet, Geale is not. This makes a Geale-Golovkin fight a slugging match between an active volume puncher with little power (52% KO ratio, several SD wins) and an active power puncher with 88% KO ratio and not an SD in sight. If Geale really tries he can stem the tide by swarming, but eventually he will tire and the outcome of this fight is not even remotely in doubt. The worst thing is that Geale has a decent chin, but hopefully the referee will save him before he is hospitalised like Ouma.

There is no disrespect for Geale in preferring the Mundine fight.

Sox · 11-13-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TCboxa

fark.. ur not a useless prick after all

Only one useless prick per forum, and you hold that crown.

ImElvis666 · 11-13-2012, 02:51 PM

I don't think the fight will happen.

If if does happen, I think Golovkin will stop Geale.

fighta29 · 11-13-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Karaganda

Geale is chanceless against Golovkin. He does not have a small chance - he has no chance whatsoever.

Why? He holds no advantage in any section of a boxers arsenal. I base the analysis on the Sturm-Geale and the Golovkin-Proksa fights. Both fights are on Youtube - go and have a look.

Sturm-Geale
Geale walks forward, seemingly preferring to do battle on the inside with Sturm. Sturm has seemingly few objections to this. While Sturm seems to be the stronger man, landing the more accurate and significant shots, Geale is more active. This largely sums up the fight over the whole 12 rounds, it was scored to Geale but really could have gone either way.

Golovkin-Proksa
Golovkin walks forward trying to cut the ring. Proksa circles and potshots. It soon becomes apparent that he does not move well enough to avoid Golovkin’s jab or left hook, and later, the right. Proksa’s attacks does not at any point hurt Golovkin, and after round two his potshotting does not even cause Golovkin to blink. As Golovkin ups the pace in round three and onwards the fight turns into real beating.

The unfair comparison
Proksa retired Sebastian Sylvester in three rounds while Geale had to go 12 rounds to a split decision. Accordingly Golovkin will win easily over Geale. Not a fair comparison I would say. What happened? Sylvester had a major hole in his defense that only a Proksa-Martinez type of fighter could exploit. He keeps his guard up with both gloves really high while hunching forward. Proksa prefers to have his gloves around his waist to hide his angle of attack. The result was that while they are in the zone, Sylvester simply could not see Proksa’s gloves. Just dig out your old gloves from the closet and try it yourself! Sylvester fought blind, became totally demoralised and retired after three rounds.

The fair comparison
Geale walks forward a bit square without any final side-step or feint as he enters his opponents zone. This will be a major issue against Golovkin as he will not have any defensive advantage based on movement. Also, not possessing a fast, long or powerful jab means that he will have to take what Golovkin can dish out as he comes in. Based on what Geale did against Sturm, Geale will step on the gas and swarm Golovkin, Ouma used this to some effect in the early rounds of his fight against Triple-G. Big difference - Ouma was quick on his feet, Geale is not. This makes a Geale-Golovkin fight a slugging match between an active volume puncher with little power (52% KO ratio, several SD wins) and an active power puncher with 88% KO ratio and not an SD in sight. If Geale really tries he can stem the tide by swarming, but eventually he will tire and the outcome of this fight is not even remotely in doubt. The worst thing is that Geale has a decent chin, but hopefully the referee will save him before he is hospitalised like Ouma.

There is no disrespect for Geale in preferring the Mundine fight.

That is an excellent post - respect.

The thing with Geale though is he is not looking for the early stoppage. Work rate, and superior movement are his tools. And as for power, Sakio stated in their last sparring that Daniel was hurting him. Something that Sakio rarely would admit.

Daniel frustrates punchers. And from what i saw with the proska fight, proska was there to be hit, he hardly moved his head, and was caught repeatedly with hard shots. GGG didnt have to do much in terms of movement to land a shot, which makes it easier to power up. Proska made GGG look good in that fight. Daniel will frustrate the fuck out of him.

mrdoctor · 11-13-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fighta29

That is an excellent post - respect.

The thing with Geale though is he is not looking for the early stoppage. Work rate, and superior movement are his tools. And as for power, Sakio stated in their last sparring that Daniel was hurting him. Something that Sakio rarely would admit.

Daniel frustrates punchers. And from what i saw with the proska fight, proska was there to be hit, he hardly moved his head, and was caught repeatedly with hard shots. GGG didnt have to do much in terms of movement to land a shot, which makes it easier to power up. Proska made GGG look good in that fight. Daniel will frustrate the fuck out of him.

Proska didn't move his head...u got to be kidding,that's what he is known for,u need to watch the fight again..he woudnt stop moving his head!!

stiflers mum · 11-13-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheManBearPig

Martinez is set to fight Martin Murray in Argentina(I think).

Yes I posted that yesterday. Sergio loves bashing Poms.

whipsy · 11-13-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stiflers mum

Yes I posted that yesterday. Sergio loves bashing Poms.

Don't we all

fistsof steel · 11-13-2012, 08:25 PM

Respect both Geale and Golovkin,both are no Bullshit extremely talented Fighters,they are both humble and show a lot of respect for the great sport of Boxing i would really hope they get it on in 2013 will be a sensational fight from 2 Great Fighters and looks like Top Blokes to boot.!!!!

fighta29 · 11-13-2012, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdoctor

Proska didn't move his head...u got to be kidding,that's what he is known for,u need to watch the fight again..he woudnt stop moving his head!!

Mate he got hit with some shots that you could see coming from the other side of the globe.

Fuck all head movement in that fight

fistsof steel · 11-13-2012, 11:32 PM

Have a Look yourself fight was stopped because of cut to Sylvester,but Proska was giving him a decent Belting before that.!!!!
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fighta29 · 11-13-2012, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fistsof steel

Have a Look yourself fight was stopped because of cut to Sylvester,but Proska was giving him a decent Belting before that.!!!!
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Different fight mate. I was talking about Proska v GGG

fistsof steel · 11-14-2012, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fighta29

Different fight mate. I was talking about Proska v GGG

Sorry Mate,interesting though Proska was fair dinkum destroying Sylvester before that fight was stopped,Proska's biggest problem he has is he keeps his hads to low GGG was always gunna Tag him with a big one,still think Proska has some Class and if he cleans up the defensive side of his Boxing will go OK.!!!

fighta29 · 11-14-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fistsof steel

Sorry Mate,interesting though Proska was fair dinkum destroying Sylvester before that fight was stopped,Proska's biggest problem he has is he keeps his hads to low GGG was always gunna Tag him with a big one,still think Proska has some Class and if he cleans up the defensive side of his Boxing will go OK.!!!

I havent watched his other fights so cant comment, but in the GGG fight, it looked like he sat on his front foot the whole time. Is that his style?

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11-13-2012, 09:58 AM	#63
Karaganda cakewalker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 77 vCash: 500	Re: Geale will beat Golovkin Geale is chanceless against Golovkin. He does not have a small chance - he has no chance whatsoever. Why? He holds no advantage in any section of a boxers arsenal. I base the analysis on the Sturm-Geale and the Golovkin-Proksa fights. Both fights are on Youtube - go and have a look. Sturm-Geale Geale walks forward, seemingly preferring to do battle on the inside with Sturm. Sturm has seemingly few objections to this. While Sturm seems to be the stronger man, landing the more accurate and significant shots, Geale is more active. This largely sums up the fight over the whole 12 rounds, it was scored to Geale but really could have gone either way. Golovkin-Proksa Golovkin walks forward trying to cut the ring. Proksa circles and potshots. It soon becomes apparent that he does not move well enough to avoid Golovkin’s jab or left hook, and later, the right. Proksa’s attacks does not at any point hurt Golovkin, and after round two his potshotting does not even cause Golovkin to blink. As Golovkin ups the pace in round three and onwards the fight turns into real beating. The unfair comparison Proksa retired Sebastian Sylvester in three rounds while Geale had to go 12 rounds to a split decision. Accordingly Golovkin will win easily over Geale. Not a fair comparison I would say. What happened? Sylvester had a major hole in his defense that only a Proksa-Martinez type of fighter could exploit. He keeps his guard up with both gloves really high while hunching forward. Proksa prefers to have his gloves around his waist to hide his angle of attack. The result was that while they are in the zone, Sylvester simply could not see Proksa’s gloves. Just dig out your old gloves from the closet and try it yourself! Sylvester fought blind, became totally demoralised and retired after three rounds. The fair comparison Geale walks forward a bit square without any final side-step or feint as he enters his opponents zone. This will be a major issue against Golovkin as he will not have any defensive advantage based on movement. Also, not possessing a fast, long or powerful jab means that he will have to take what Golovkin can dish out as he comes in. Based on what Geale did against Sturm, Geale will step on the gas and swarm Golovkin, Ouma used this to some effect in the early rounds of his fight against Triple-G. Big difference - Ouma was quick on his feet, Geale is not. This makes a Geale-Golovkin fight a slugging match between an active volume puncher with little power (52% KO ratio, several SD wins) and an active power puncher with 88% KO ratio and not an SD in sight. If Geale really tries he can stem the tide by swarming, but eventually he will tire and the outcome of this fight is not even remotely in doubt. The worst thing is that Geale has a decent chin, but hopefully the referee will save him before he is hospitalised like Ouma. There is no disrespect for Geale in preferring the Mundine fight.
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ImElvis666 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,420 vCash: 283381	Re: Geale will beat Golovkin I don't think the fight will happen. If if does happen, I think Golovkin will stop Geale.
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11-13-2012, 08:25 PM	#70
fistsof steel Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,170 vCash: 500	Re: Geale will beat Golovkin Respect both Geale and Golovkin,both are no Bullshit extremely talented Fighters,they are both humble and show a lot of respect for the great sport of Boxing i would really hope they get it on in 2013 will be a sensational fight from 2 Great Fighters and looks like Top Blokes to boot.!!!!
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11-13-2012, 11:32 PM	#72
fistsof steel Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,170 vCash: 500	Re: Geale will beat Golovkin Have a Look yourself fight was stopped because of cut to Sylvester,but Proska was giving him a decent Belting before that.!!!! [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRtaCbWobyE[/ame]
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