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View Poll Results: ESB's 2012 "Fighter Of The Year"
Nonito Donaire 80 30.42%
Andre Ward 35 13.31%
Sergio Martinez 36 13.69%
Danny Garcia 57 21.67%
Brian Viloria 7 2.66%
Abner Mares 6 2.28%
Robert Guererro 4 1.52%
Adrien Broner 11 4.18%
Other 27 10.27%
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:58 PM   #61
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Nonito Donaire.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:14 PM   #62
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Ward is the Fighter Of The Year
He fought one time in 2012. No way he deserves that honour.

2011? Sure I would pick him based on winning the super 6 tourney.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:24 PM   #63
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Donaire or MArtinez
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:27 PM   #64
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I'm inclined to go with Ward at this point for turning back Chad Dawson's challenge in such impressive fashion.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:30 PM   #65
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I'm inclined to go with Ward at this point for turning back Chad Dawson's challenge in such impressive fashion.
But he only fought once... and it wasn't the best Dawson... compared to Donaire's wins? OR Garcias or Martinez's?.. It's good but not good enough to trump them in an honest effort IMO
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:57 PM   #66
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Have to go with Martinez. Stopping Macklin and then nearly shutting out Chavez who was practically a cruiserweight is worthy.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:08 PM   #67
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Have to go with Martinez. Stopping Macklin and then nearly shutting out Chavez who was practically a cruiserweight is worthy.
That's 2 fights against 2 solid contenders. That should be the norm, not FOTY stuff. Chavez was a cruiser vs 165lb Zbik just last year, and most people had him losing. Didn't drop Zbik at all.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:12 PM   #68
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That's 2 fights against 2 solid contenders. That should be the norm, not FOTY stuff.
It SHOULD be, but it isn't.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:19 PM   #69
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It SHOULD be, but it isn't.
Right, you could fight 2 non contenders like Martinez did last year. Still as bad as this year was for FOTY, there's people doing more, like Donaire or Garcia. Or Pac of course if he wins clear cut.
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Right, you could fight 2 non contenders like Martinez did last year. Still as bad as this year was for FOTY, there's people doing more, like Donaire or Garcia. Or Pac of course if he wins clear cut.
Garcia doing more? Maybe if the Holt fight was this year...
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:20 PM   #71
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Right, you could fight 2 non contenders like Martinez did last year. Still as bad as this year was for FOTY, there's people doing more, like Donaire or Garcia. Or Pac of course if he wins clear cut.
Donaire I can understand, but Garcia? No way. No doubt his victory over Khan was impressive, but the other two vs a BEYOND-SHOT Morales mean nothing.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:22 PM   #72
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Martinez
Donaire
Viloria- If he beats Tyson
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:26 PM   #73
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Donaire I can understand, but Garcia? No way. No doubt his victory over Khan was impressive, but the other two vs a BEYOND-SHOT Morales mean nothing.
Khan is better than either of Martinez' wins, and 3 wins is better than 2. Morales was Ring top 10 ranked, right or wrong. Mostly wrong, but had that win over Cano that is looking better now. He did alright vs Garcia 1 also.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:31 PM   #74
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Donaire takes it.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:33 PM   #75
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Khan is better than either of Martinez' wins, and 3 wins is better than 2. Morales was Ring top 10 ranked, right or wrong. Mostly wrong, but had that win over Cano that is looking better now. He did alright vs Garcia 1 also.
Citing Morales' performance against Garcia as an indicator of his quality and therefore the impressiveness of Garcia's win is completely circular. You wouldn't accept the argument that "Barker wasn't a non-contender because he did alright against Martinez" so don't use the equivalent justification for Garcia/Morales. Likewise, simply giving credit for fighting more when two of those fights come against the same opponent seems illogical. The average rating of Martinez's two opponents was higher than Garcia's; would you really then say that the second Morales fight alone bumps Garcia ahead?
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