Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it?

Nafflad26 · 11-14-2012, 12:43 PM

Did Froch lose this fight? I'm finding it so difficult to score and keep watching the rounds again and again. I've decided I'd have to score it draw but with Dirrell losing a point I've scored it 114-113 in favour of Froch.

Hadrian · 11-14-2012, 01:31 PM

fights like this...however they are scored are basically draws in essence. What I mean by that is it's impossible to say either side was superior in the fight...scoring exists to indicate who the superior person was when there is no stoppage...can anyone honestly say either one was superior? They were both awesome on the night. In other fights both sides are so-so or even both suck. In the "old" days there were many more draws and for good reason, I'd like to see that be the case again.

Robert · 11-14-2012, 01:33 PM

I though Dirrell won it but only ever watched it live

El Greeno · 11-14-2012, 01:38 PM

I salute you for managing to get through a rewatch without killing yourself

PaulieMc · 11-14-2012, 01:40 PM

American pundits and journalists who don't like to give Froch always bang on about this fight.

Froch won, it was very close and scrappy but Froch deserved it, Dirrell didn't.

Ignore what the bias American commentators say when you watch on Youtube, watch it with the sound off and you'll see what I mean.

For the whole fight all Dirrell did was run away and hold which made it crap to watch. Froch was the one landing the big, eye catching shots.

Dirrell is like Andre Ward; talented, slick and difficult to hit but his style is boring and that's why he has no fans (at least none who'll pay to see him fight).

Froch has improved a lot since and Dirrell has been virtually inactive, Carl would probably KO him in a rematch. Wouldn't seeing Dirrell face Groves or DeGale though.

ishy · 11-14-2012, 01:41 PM

How many times did you actually watch it? "watching the rounds again and again"

It was bad enough having to watch it on the night. Thought Dirrell nicked it and don't have any intention of ever rewatching it.

Vyborg1917 · 11-14-2012, 01:58 PM

I've watched it twice and seen it by a round or so for a different guy each time.

The Chosen · 11-14-2012, 01:58 PM

Dirrell proved when he didn't fight like a chicken shit for the last 4 or so rounds that Carl was out of his depth against him and he even had Carl backing up in the last couple off rounds Dirrell only has himself to blame for losing that fight.

Clark81 · 11-14-2012, 02:08 PM

The judges that night decided that hitting fresh air scored points.

Luckily for Froch that's exactly what he did in this fight and he got the decision.

Big Ears · 11-14-2012, 02:11 PM

I remember scoring it 114-113 Dirrell, I however thought Dirrell should have been disqualified before the Championship rounds for his excessive holding and at the very least should have had another few points taken off, so I can't complain with a Froch win.

MrAthena · 11-14-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hadrian

fights like this...however they are scored are basically draws in essence. What I mean by that is it's impossible to say either side was superior in the fight...scoring exists to indicate who the superior person was when there is no stoppage...can anyone honestly say either one was superior? They were both awesome on the night. In other fights both sides are so-so or even both suck. In the "old" days there were many more draws and for good reason, I'd like to see that be the case again.

I agree with this totally. When scoring fights I tend to score 10/10's much more than most people. I round needs to be won not nicked or just given to. It ties in with the Americans and their inability to have a draw, someone has to win.

I regard to the OP, Dirrell robbed himself by fighting far too defensively. Had Froch by two points I think. Have not and will not re watch it.

Beeston Brawler · 11-14-2012, 02:29 PM

0-0.

Both were fucking shit on the night.

Dirrell ought to have dominated, but Froch got in his head and by the time Dirrell had realised it was a winnable fight he was already too far behind.

Robert · 11-14-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark81

The judges that night decided that hitting fresh air scored points.

Luckily for Froch that's exactly what he did in this fight and he got the decision.

thats what i thought Froch hardly hit him at all it was almost the exact same fight as Haye - Valuev where Haye ran all night a pot shotted but he was never hit so you cant lose a round if you dont get hit

Anaboilc lion · 11-14-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chosen

Dirrell proved when he didn't fight like a chicken shit for the last 4 or so rounds that Carl was out of his depth against him and he even had Carl backing up in the last couple off rounds Dirrell only has himself to blame for losing that fight.

Boxalot · 11-14-2012, 04:03 PM

Saw it live in the arena and thought Froch nicked it. Had the misfortune of watching it again on tape and had it 114-113 Froch. I'm not sitting through it again though, dreadful fight with Dirrell throwing himself on the floor, and Froch getting pissed off at the lack of action.

11-14-2012, 12:43 PM	#1
Nafflad26 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 617 vCash: 500	Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? Did Froch lose this fight? I'm finding it so difficult to score and keep watching the rounds again and again. I've decided I'd have to score it draw but with Dirrell losing a point I've scored it 114-113 in favour of Froch.
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11-14-2012, 01:31 PM	#2
Hadrian Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 227 vCash: 1000	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? fights like this...however they are scored are basically draws in essence. What I mean by that is it's impossible to say either side was superior in the fight...scoring exists to indicate who the superior person was when there is no stoppage...can anyone honestly say either one was superior? They were both awesome on the night. In other fights both sides are so-so or even both suck. In the "old" days there were many more draws and for good reason, I'd like to see that be the case again.
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11-14-2012, 01:33 PM	#3
Robert Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,619 vCash: 1000	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? I though Dirrell won it but only ever watched it live
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11-14-2012, 01:38 PM	#4
El Greeno Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,284 vCash: 360	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? I salute you for managing to get through a rewatch without killing yourself
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11-14-2012, 01:40 PM	#5
PaulieMc Vae Victis ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 2,018 vCash: 416	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? American pundits and journalists who don't like to give Froch always bang on about this fight. Froch won, it was very close and scrappy but Froch deserved it, Dirrell didn't. Ignore what the bias American commentators say when you watch on Youtube, watch it with the sound off and you'll see what I mean. For the whole fight all Dirrell did was run away and hold which made it crap to watch. Froch was the one landing the big, eye catching shots. Dirrell is like Andre Ward; talented, slick and difficult to hit but his style is boring and that's why he has no fans (at least none who'll pay to see him fight). Froch has improved a lot since and Dirrell has been virtually inactive, Carl would probably KO him in a rematch. Wouldn't seeing Dirrell face Groves or DeGale though. Last edited by PaulieMc; 11-14-2012 at 02:21 PM.
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11-14-2012, 01:41 PM	#6
ishy P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 29,114 vCash: 500	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? How many times did you actually watch it? "watching the rounds again and again" It was bad enough having to watch it on the night. Thought Dirrell nicked it and don't have any intention of ever rewatching it.
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11-14-2012, 01:58 PM	#7
Vyborg1917 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 736 vCash: 792	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? I've watched it twice and seen it by a round or so for a different guy each time.
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11-14-2012, 01:58 PM	#8
The Chosen Bada Bing! Bada Boom! ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In Your Wet Dreams Posts: 896 vCash: 1000	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? Dirrell proved when he didn't fight like a chicken shit for the last 4 or so rounds that Carl was out of his depth against him and he even had Carl backing up in the last couple off rounds Dirrell only has himself to blame for losing that fight.
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11-14-2012, 02:08 PM	#9
Clark81 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 176 vCash: 500	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? The judges that night decided that hitting fresh air scored points. Luckily for Froch that's exactly what he did in this fight and he got the decision.
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11-14-2012, 02:11 PM	#10
Big Ears Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,039 vCash: 1820	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? I remember scoring it 114-113 Dirrell, I however thought Dirrell should have been disqualified before the Championship rounds for his excessive holding and at the very least should have had another few points taken off, so I can't complain with a Froch win.
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11-14-2012, 02:29 PM	#12
Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: trying to increase my overdraft.... Posts: 35,272 vCash: 75	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? 0-0. Both were fucking shit on the night. Dirrell ought to have dominated, but Froch got in his head and by the time Dirrell had realised it was a winnable fight he was already too far behind.
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11-14-2012, 04:03 PM	#15
Boxalot Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,002 vCash: 500	Re: Just rewatched Froch v Dirrell how did you score it? Saw it live in the arena and thought Froch nicked it. Had the misfortune of watching it again on tape and had it 114-113 Froch. I'm not sitting through it again though, dreadful fight with Dirrell throwing himself on the floor, and Froch getting pissed off at the lack of action.
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