lennox's resume is hardly better than wlad's

[ELECTRIC GURU]

Originally Posted by paypayvay

seriously , lennox fans are always talking about how " this era sucks " as if lewis fought in the golden age of boxing , let's examine the 90's :

-fossils from the 70's and early 80's were still in contention for the title ( Tony Tucker , george foreman )
-bruce seldon was a world champion
-frank bruno was a world champion
-françois botha was a world champion
-the scary light heavyweight Michael Moorer was a multiple times world champion
-Shannon Briggs was the man to beat for the lineal title

and even in that weak era, lennox managed to get KTFO'd twice by limited / one-trick ponied opponents when he was regarded as the number 1 heavyweight in the world and held major titles .

other than limited opponents and two washed up names , who did he beat ?

>>>>TKO 6 was his best win , and it's the only reason he should be ranked " slightly " above wlad .

What da fuck is wrong wit you man

[Hands of Iron]

I have LL #3 all-time.

I won't sympathize with you Englishmen due your very poor treatment of Tyson on these forums. To bring him up as a Hall of Famer on Lewis' resume is the ultimate irony. You deal with this.

[thesandman]

Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

Aye, if you took Lennox's top three heavyweight victories away, he has a similar level of resume to Volo. Also, if you take away Ali's comeback career and remove his wins over Liston and Patterson up to that point, you can argue that Volo is in the same league, achievement-wise. While we're at it, if you remove all the HW champions top ten-twenty wins, they're all pretty much in the same boat, as far as resume and achievement are concerned, except maybe Louis.

My only issue with this post is it may be too subtle for this thread.

[DOM5153]

this thread is as tragic as it is funny.

[Rudyard]

I figured that somebody would try to say this after Wlad beat Wach.

Lewis is a top 10 ATG HW whether you want to accept it or not!

[KidDynamite]

Eddie Chambers, Tony Thompson and the other collection of complete BUMS on Wlads resume don't compare at all

Only in the klit era would these nobodies be contenders ...

The 90s had much more talent and guys like Bruce Seldon and Frans Botha (who never even really had a belt) are better than most of the bums that the Klits beat, like Wach

Shannon Briggs who never held a belt in the 90s had a stap in the bitchko era when he was old and senile

[sbbigmike]

Originally Posted by Rudyard

I figured that somebody would try to say this after Wlad beat Wach.

Lewis is a top 10 ATG HW whether you want to accept it or not!

So is Wlad


The truth is people hat the Klits just cause, they can't help it they dominate one half of the fighters while the others are busy ducking

[Threetime no1]

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron

I have LL #3 all-time.

I won't sympathize with you Englishmen due your very poor treatment of Tyson on these forums. To bring him up as a Hall of Famer on Lewis' resume is the ultimate irony. You deal with this.

Hey bro i know you don't include me in that.


Nice rating for Lewis btw friend.

[Threetime no1]

Originally Posted by thesandman

My only issue with this post is it may be too subtle for this thread.

Yep, that's a given.

[Rudyard]

Originally Posted by sbbigmike

So is Wlad


The truth is people hat the Klits just cause, they can't it they dominate one half of the fighters while the others are busy ducking

So you're honestly trying to say that Wlad resume is better than Lewis'?

And no, I dont hate the Klits...Just dont think Wlad has the comp. to rank him ahead of the past ATG.

I take nothing from Wlad, but to say that he should be in the top 10 isnt true IMO.

[Ilesey]

paypaygay lol

[sbbigmike]

Originally Posted by Rudyard

So you're honestly trying to say that Wlad resume is better than Lewis'?

And no, I dont hate the Klits...Just dont think Wlad has the comp. to rank him ahead of the past ATG.

I take nothing from Wlad, but to say that he should be in the top 10 isnt true IMO.

No I'm just saying if you criticize Wlad, you have to do the same for Lewis, Tyson, and Ali to a lessor degree fair is fair. I don't see people complaining about Lewis china chin, or any ever past great HEAVYWEIGHT who got ko'ed or put on they ass, when Wlad has gotten up and stood tall every time he went down......

[Rudyard]

Originally Posted by sbbigmike

No I'm just saying if you criticize Wlad, you have to do the same for Lewis, Tyson, and Ali to a lessor degree fair is fair. I don't see people complaining about Lewis china chin, or any ever past great HEAVYWEIGHT who got ko'ed or put on they ass, when Wlad has gotten up and stood tall every time he went down......

What does his chin have to do with Ranking him???

Just agree to disagree...your logic is not sinking in over here!

[Threetime no1]

Originally Posted by sbbigmike

No I'm just saying if you criticize Wlad, you have to do the same for Lewis, Tyson, and Ali to a lessor degree fair is fair. I don't see people complaining about Lewis china chin, or any ever past great HEAVYWEIGHT who got ko'ed or put on they ass, when Wlad has gotten up and stood tall every time he went down......

It's not so black and white though is it?

It's the intangibles of the fights and the fighters that people don't forget.

[irishny]

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron

Surely you aren't including Mike Tyson in this group, right? The same guy you don't even consider good in his 1980s incarnation. What the fuck do you think he was in 2002?

Never said he wasnt good. Just not the ATG that his fans make him out to be.

Hes still the youngest heavyweight champ of all time, although I think Holyfield legitimately beat him twice.

Holyfield doesnt get NEARLY enough credit for those wins.

A past prime Tyson is still a shit load better than a past prime Mormeck for example.