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Old 11-14-2012, 04:29 PM   #31
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I'll bump all the threads if you want me to you inbred dipset
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:32 PM   #33
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All three fights are 50/50, you can bitch all day about what you thought even as you clearly troll, it wouldn't change the fact that all three fights were hell for both fighters and close. There is no decisive winner and I will be shocked if the fourth fight finally brings a clear result. I personally had Pacquiao winning the first two fights and losing the third.
First and third fight were decisive for JMM. I'm okay with a toss-up in second fight.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:34 PM   #34
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It's just hype. And I'm glad there's some because the fight is days ahead and so far there's no excitement yet. It feels like waiting for a bus or train when it should be like waiting for Christmas.
Ariza talks bs as usual. Nothing to sit and speculate about.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:41 PM   #35
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I never sensed that they were not on the formula volume plus speed equals success but if they are willing to increase both volume and speed then they must want to guarantee success. Easy reading.
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IF Manny wants to win this fight he goes for the KILL.
He can't box with Marquez.
Pacquiao has never done that before. Dude!
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:09 PM   #37
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They always say this, but there is probably an element of truth to it, since Roach's plan is apparently to "Throw everything out the window and fight this guy."

We'll see how that works out for them, I guess.
Sorry Tazo but you're off base here. For whatever plan Pacquiao may walk into the ring with, be it either of the 3 fights they've fought, "Throwing everything out the window and fighting Marquez" is always an option to any plan they may have.

An element of truth my ass! Against Marquez, Pacquiaio has always tried the avenue of relentless aggression, but he gets turned back by that hard right hand counter by Marquez everytime.

Pacquiao will try it again no doubt, but the kamikazee aggression will stop once again once Marquez starts to bounce those right hands flush on Pacquiao's face.
Those counter right hands by Marquez are straight as an arrow missiles that radar Pacquiao's face and noggin.
When you exhert aggression against a skill counterpuncher like Marquez you pay the price, and each of the 3 rights they've fought, Pacquiao's has been forced to slow down and even halt his kamikazee style rushes.

You know better than anyone Tazo, its not Pacquiao who conciously makes a decision to slow down his volume. Those straight rights by Marquez hurt. It is Marquez who dictates to Pacquiao by landing those flush right hands "you better watch yourself boy, cause you're going to get hurt."

Stopping his whirlwind assault on Marquez is not something Pacquiao does by choice, Marquez dictates that he does. If he does'nt, somebody is going to get stopped, and its likely not going to be Juan Manuel Marquez!
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:11 PM   #38
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Sorry Tazo but you're off base here. For whatever plan Pacquiao may walk into the ring with, be it either of the 3 fights they've fought, "Throwing everything out the window and fighting Marquez" is always an option to any plan they may have.

An element of truth my ass! Against Marquez, Pacquiaio has always tried the avenue of relentless aggression, but he gets turned back by that hard right hand counter by Marquez everytime.

Pacquiao will try it again no doubt, but the kamikazee aggression will stop once again once Marquez starts to bounce those right hands flush on Pacquiao's face.
Those counter right hands by Marquez are straight as an arrow missiles that radar Pacquiao's noggin.
When you exhert aggression against a skill counterpuncher like Marquez you pay the price, and each of the 3 rights they've fought, Pacquiao's has been forced to slow down and even halt his kamikazee style rushes.

You know better than anyone Tazo, its not Pacquiao who conciously makes a decision to slow down his volume. Those straight rights by Marquez hurt. It is Marquez who dictates to Pacquiao by landing those flush right hands "you better watch yourself boy, cause you're going to get hurt."

Stopping his whirlwind assault on Marquez is not something Pacquiao does by choice, Marquez dictates that he does. If he does'nt, somebody is going to get stopped, and its likely not going to be Juan Manuel Marquez!
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I never sensed that they were not on the formula volume plus speed equals success but if they are willing to increase both volume and speed then they must want to guarantee success. Easy reading.
Speak in laymans terms so everyone can understand.

Simply make your statement like this, "Pacquiao always trains for volume and speed if they are willing to increase it even further, they must want to guarantee sucess."

Ridiculous statement seeing that both Pacquiao and Marquez are getting older and not younger.


Do you believe Pacquiao can walk into the ring and December 8th and be faster than he's ever been?????

Maybe Mayweather can increase his speed and be at his 130 lbs speed days!

Unbelievable these guys!
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just like before the the JMM3 fight, never changes. he's always a beast before then after he didn't train right hahaha funny how that works
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:29 PM   #41
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Hopefully this means we can see another batch of brilliant arguments after the fight that Manny deserved to win for missing loads of punches, complete with bullshit CompuBox numbers.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:53 PM   #42
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Why are we getting statements from strength and conditioning coaches ? Haven't we learned that he should keep his mouth shut !
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:13 PM   #43
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Before fight

Manny looks better than ever!

After fight

There were alot of problems in camp. Manny didnt go to bed on time. Leg cramps. Ect
Remember Pac in a quiet corner of Wild Card wincing at hyperextending his knee doing squat jumps at a furious pace training for JMM2. No one seemed ta see it.

Looked serious to me since it was only a week from the fight. Pac continued his workout, wincing 'n squeezing his calf, but Team Pac assured me it was "nothing" 'n he'd be 100%

In retrospect, it seems more wishful thinking than medical DX
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Remember Pac in a quiet corner of Wild Card wincing at hyperextending his knee doing squat jumps at a furious pace training for JMM2. No one seemed ta see it.

Looked serious to me since it was only a week from the fight. Pac continued his workout, wincing 'n squeezing his calf, but Team Pac assured me it was "nothing" 'n he'd be 100%

In retrospect, it seems more wishful thinking than medical DX
this aint something they r making up. his calves r freakishly huge. they r huge again for this camp. they seem to help him in the ring in the past but now they seem to hamper him more as he gets older. most likely the cause is because he is over-using his calves too much. he plays basketball, he spars, he runs, everything has to do with the calves. i dont know y he doesnt swim like wlad does.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:55 PM   #45
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Remember Pac in a quiet corner of Wild Card wincing at hyperextending his knee doing squat jumps at a furious pace training for JMM2. No one seemed ta see it.

Looked serious to me since it was only a week from the fight. Pac continued his workout, wincing 'n squeezing his calf, but Team Pac assured me it was "nothing" 'n he'd be 100%

In retrospect, it seems more wishful thinking than medical DX
WOW! Even though you're practically part of team Pacquiao, I would'nt expect you JG to throw an exuse out like that for Pacquiao.

Pacquiao winced doing serious and furious squat jumps, what a shocker.

Most every athlete, especially ones with the mileage of both Pacquiao and Marquez will have lingering injuries heading into a fight.

So Pacquiao hyperextended his knee but he's holding his calf?
That one's hard to take to the bank.

When one does these serious types of squats, leg cramps are actually common. There's a reason why fighters ease up their training the week before a fight. Resting and staying away from cramping muscle injuries is part of that reason.
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