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Old 11-14-2012, 09:06 PM   #31
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First off, Wach is nothing more than a 6'7" walking punching bag. No head movement, no jab, shit for balance - essentially he's par for the course that is Wlad's typical opponent.

As far as the Baby Klit is concerned, anyone who thinks this guy has one of the best jabs in HW history is seriously DELUSIONAL and needs to go watch some films of Larry Holmes or Sonny Liston. Those guys had ATG jabs. Wlad, OTOH has absolute SHIT for a jab. There's no snap on it, he spends most of the time pawing with it - and after he throws that conviction-less jab of his, he drops his left hand down to his waist inviting a counter right hand. Definitely not ATG stuff here.

Also, Wlad's right hand power is grotesquely overrated by the Klit lickers in this forum. Comparing Wlad's right hand to that of Lennox Lewis is like comparing a Ford Mustang to a high end Ferrari. Lennox throws his right hand with more conviction, more confidence, better technique and better leverage. IOW, in terms of right hand power, Lennox is in another league. I saw Wach each flush right hands from the opening round to the final stanza and at no time did I think he was in danger of being stopped. Wlad, OTOH, had a few deer-n-headlight moments.

Lastly, Wlad's stamina is an issue. To me, he looked gassed after the 8th after unloading on Wach - and Wach was STILL coming forward for the remainder of the fight.

I watched that fight thinking what a prime or near prime Evander Holyfield would do to that disgrace of a HW "Champion".

Yes indeed!
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:13 PM   #32
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i think Wach uses his size incorrectly,
i mean why da fuk he lean with his head forward instead putting his weight on right leg an lean backward like Vitali does.and then block punches by garbing hands and clinching if fighter get too close
Wach put his weight on left leg and lean his head forward just to get it punched by Wladimirs jabs.
and he fight kinda short,half bend,not like tall fighter should do.
he needs to get faster somehow and with his chin he can still beat some guys in heavyweight division save klitschko
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:15 PM   #33
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Yes indeed!
I find Lennox's a little looping. Don't get me wrong, it does the job and then some.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:19 PM   #34
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Yeah Wach has a really good chin one of the best that I have ever seen. I just think that 9-11 was a government sponsored false flag terror attack
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:24 PM   #35
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First off, Wach is nothing more than a 6'7" walking punching bag. No head movement, no jab, shit for balance - essentially he's par for the course that is Wlad's typical opponent.

As far as the Baby Klit is concerned, anyone who thinks this guy has one of the best jabs in HW history is seriously DELUSIONAL and needs to go watch some films of Larry Holmes or Sonny Liston. Those guys had ATG jabs. Wlad, OTOH has absolute SHIT for a jab.
Oh Christ what a retard.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:25 PM   #36
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Holyfield?

Put the Wlad that schooled Chagaev (peak Wlad, imo) and he schools Holyfield also.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:26 PM   #37
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In what other era does Wach get a title fight of this magnitude?
An era when top contenders are afraid to get into the ring with the champ.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:31 PM   #38
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Holyfield?

Put the Wlad that schooled Chagaev (peak Wlad, imo) and he schools Holyfield also.
That wasn't peak Wlad. He had a torn up right shoulder so couldn't throw his right very often but the few times he did he threw with power. His defense that fight was indeed awesome. Chagaev couldn't even hit Wlad to the body. Again, the fact that losers start endless threads demeaning Wlad is a testament to his greatness as dominant, longterm champ.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:32 PM   #39
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What did you expect, the person who started the thread is a complete jackass... i dont even know what he wrote as he is on my ignore list... but i am sure it is probobly crap.
You guessed right.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:34 PM   #40
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An era when top contenders are afraid to get into the ring with the champ.
LOL

He was a top contender your moron!

And only in the Klit era is he a top contender

Hell even the walking corpse of Shannon Briggs is a contender in the Klit era
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:34 PM   #41
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I read to where the thread starter said that Wlad has a shit jab. That will be the last post that I ever read by him.
Same here. Anyone who thinks Wlad has a shit jab is a retard.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:37 PM   #42
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LOL

He was a top contender your moron!
No he wasn't. Wach wasn't even in the Ring top ten.

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And only in the Klit era is he a top contender
Wach was not a top contender. What ****ng planet do you live on?

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Hell even the walking corpse of Shannon Briggs is a contender in the Klit era
Really? What position in the Ring top ten did Briggs have when he fought Vitali?
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That wasn't peak Wlad. He had a torn up right shoulder so couldn't throw his right very often but the few times he did he threw with power. His defense that fight was indeed awesome. Chagaev couldn't even hit Wlad to the body. Again, the fact that losers start endless threads demeaning Wlad is a testament to his greatness as dominant, longterm champ.
Actually I thought the problem with the Chagaev fight was that Wlad couldn't throw left hooks.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:41 PM   #44
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Klitschko said Wach "boxed brilliantly."

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Waldo is as deluded as his down syndrome fans

The likes of Tyson Fury and Robert Helenius are top contenders in the Klit era
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:44 PM   #45
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Wach was ranked 4 by the WBC when he fought Wlad you fuking morons
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