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Old 11-14-2012, 09:22 PM   #211
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Just cause your gettin hurt doesnt mean what your thinkin Magna, it could be a number of things,,gettin hurt with a shot, knowing youre gettin beat up, the ref stops it, the trainer stops it, Or the fighter just quits
..No shame in any of that especially in this day and age
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:27 PM   #212
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Just cause your gettin hurt doesnt mean what your thinkin Magna, it could be a number of things,,gettin hurt with a shot, knowing youre gettin beat up, the ref stops it, the trainer stops it, Or the fighter just quits
..No shame in any of that especially in this day and age
100% agree with you mate. 100%.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:47 PM   #213
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100% agree with you mate. 100%.
I mean none of these guys wanna get hurt or risk there health, especially when you know theres nothin you can do to keep this guy off you..Well then its time.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:50 PM   #214
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100% agree with you mate. 100%.
Your obviously a smart fighter to agree 100%..Most inelegant Boxers are my man..Good stuff Magna!
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:11 PM   #215
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Your obviously a smart fighter to agree 100%..Most inelegant Boxers are my man..Good stuff Magna!
It's not worth your life!

Oscar knew this game inside and out. Every decision he made was a smart one.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:43 PM   #216
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Except stickin around along as he did by goin out with a hand full of embarrassing losses.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:43 PM   #217
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It's not worth your life!

Oscar knew this game inside and out. Every decision he made was a smart one.

Not exactly.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:07 AM   #218
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He's sane, he's got all his faculties, he's not bothered by lingering injuries, he's popular, and he's rich as hell. He gets to be involved at will, and works with all the top talent, getting even richer.

Hell, sign me up. I'll lose my next 10 embarrassingly. I'd fight Wlad for a half a percent of what that guy made!
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:12 AM   #219
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He's sane, he's got all his faculties, he's not bothered by lingering injuries, he's popular, and he's rich as hell. He gets to be involved at will, and works with all the top talent, getting even richer.

Hell, sign me up. I'll lose my next 10 embarrassingly. I'd fight Wlad for a half a percent of what that guy made!
You got the rick as hell part right.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:14 AM   #220
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I dont think its so much that they were worried about his health against Manny, I believe they wanted to stop the embarrassment .
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:28 AM   #221
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As to this thread itself, no way known was Oscar overated. If a few more had his desire to test himself against the best then boxing would be in a much better state today.

He had some fine skills, a beautiful left hand, was quick, had a great chin and was entertaining to watch primarily because he was almost always matched with stiff competition.

Even though his time at 135 was brief I rank him extremely high there h2h. His combination of size,speed and concussive power would trouble and likely beat some more higher regarded lightweights in my opinion.

Perhaps one knock on him was he never seemed to completely settle on a style that suited him best. He sometimes looked stuck between a desire to be a stalk and destroy type sometimes and other times a more cautious boxer. That may be a result of him changing trainers so often but personally I always preferred when he had that Ruelas/Mayorga mindset. He was brutally effective in that style.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:37 AM   #222
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As to this thread itself, no way known was Oscar overated. If a few more had his desire to test himself against the best then boxing would be in a much better state today.

He had some fine skills, a beautiful left hand, was quick, had a great chin and was entertaining to watch primarily because he was almost always matched with stiff competition.

Even though his time at 135 was brief I rank him extremely high there h2h. His combination of size,speed and concussive power would trouble and likely beat some more higher regarded lightweights in my opinion.

Perhaps one knock on him was he never seemed to completely settle on a style that suited him best. He sometimes looked stuck between a desire to be a stalk and destroy type sometimes and other times a more cautious boxer. That may be a result of him changing trainers so often but personally I always preferred when he had that Ruelas/Mayorga mindset. He was brutally effective in that style.
I agree, a great fighter and overrated he is not.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:38 AM   #223
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So bottom line Oscar is not overated.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:48 AM   #224
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:59 AM   #225
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Except stickin around along as he did by goin out with a hand full of embarrassing losses.
How much did each of those losses at the end of his career net him, like twenty million each? Still pretty smart. I'd rate him and Floyd as businessmen higher than as fighters.
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