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Old 11-14-2012, 09:45 PM   #46
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Klitschko said Wach "boxed brilliantly."

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Waldo is as deluded as his down syndrome fans

The likes of Tyson Fury and Robert Helenius are top contenders in the Klit era
Im gonna tell you this now dont ever talk shite about Tyson Fury. Fury completely dominated Chisora and rocked him several times, he beat him worse than Vitali did . Helenius looked like shite vs Chisora.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:50 PM   #47
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In what other era does Wach get a title fight of this magnitude?
Wach KOs Morrison, Moorer, Berbick, Hide, Leon Spinks, and loses a decision to prime Holmes.
He'd murder any HW champion who ruled prior to WW2, and the top guys in the 50s would have their hands full, but UD him.

Wach would do well in any era, he's just missing that notch to make him elite.
But we should be assured there are titlists he would murder.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:50 PM   #48
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Im gonna tell you this now dont ever talk shite about Tyson Fury. Fury completely dominated Chisora and rocked him several times, he beat him worse than Vitali did . Helenius looked like shite vs Chisora.
Yeah he's a world beater

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He would destroy Lewis, Bowe and Holyfield wouldn't he
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Actually I thought the problem with the Chagaev fight was that Wlad couldn't throw left hooks.
Yeah, you're right. I checked an old interview with Steward and he said he fought Chagaev with just one good shoulder, the right one. That wordage must have confused me. Anyway, he fought a brilliant fight but he was essentially one armed so i don't count that as his peak. It was an incredible display of defensive prowess and i remember being very impressed by Wlad's boxing ability for such a huge guy.
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Yeah he's a world beater

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Wait til December 1st when Fury owns Kevin Johnson
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Wach was ranked 4 by the WBC when he fought Wlad you fuking morons
Whoopie ****ing do. What kind of retard takes ABC organization rankings seriously? The ****ing WBA had 40 year old Rahman as the #1 contender last month!
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:54 PM   #52
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Whoopie ****ing do. What kind of retard takes ABC organization rankings seriously? The ****ing WBA had 40 year old Rahman as the #1 contender last month!
Exactly my point Klittard

Only in the Klit era is 40 year old shot to hell Rahman ranked that high
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:57 PM   #53
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Yeah, you're right. I checked an old interview with Steward and he said he fought Chagaev with just one good shoulder, the right one. That wordage must have confused me. Anyway, he fought a brilliant fight but he was essentially one armed so i don't count that as his peak. It was an incredible display of defensive prowess and i remember being very impressed by Wlad's boxing ability for such a huge guy.
Chagaev got totally dominated and his corner pulled him out even though Chagaev had taken way less than half of the beating Wach took after round eight.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:00 PM   #54
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Exactly my point Klittard

Only in the Klit era is 40 year old shot to hell Rahman ranked that high
Ranked that high by bullshit ABC sanctioning bodies you ****ing dope. Who the **** thought 40 year old overweight Rahman was the #1 contender last month other than the corrupt WBA president? Even you are not that ****ing dumb to believe that. Well maybe you aren't.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:06 PM   #55
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You wanna see a jab? Check Golota in the mid 90s before he ****ed up his shoulder.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:08 PM   #56
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First off, Wach is nothing more than a 6'7" walking punching bag. No head movement, no jab, shit for balance - essentially he's par for the course that is Wlad's typical opponent.

As far as the Baby Klit is concerned, anyone who thinks this guy has one of the best jabs in HW history is seriously DELUSIONAL and needs to go watch some films of Larry Holmes or Sonny Liston. Those guys had ATG jabs. Wlad, OTOH has absolute SHIT for a jab. There's no snap on it, he spends most of the time pawing with it - and after he throws that conviction-less jab of his, he drops his left hand down to his waist inviting a counter right hand. Definitely not ATG stuff here.

Also, Wlad's right hand power is grotesquely overrated by the Klit lickers in this forum. Comparing Wlad's right hand to that of Lennox Lewis is like comparing a Ford Mustang to a high end Ferrari. Lennox throws his right hand with more conviction, more confidence, better technique and better leverage. IOW, in terms of right hand power, Lennox is in another league. I saw Wach each flush right hands from the opening round to the final stanza and at no time did I think he was in danger of being stopped. Wlad, OTOH, had a few deer-n-headlight moments.

Lastly, Wlad's stamina is an issue. To me, he looked gassed after the 8th after unloading on Wach - and Wach was STILL coming forward for the remainder of the fight.

I watched that fight thinking what a prime or near prime Evander Holyfield would do to that disgrace of a HW "Champion".
What 6'7 Heavyweight in History has ever had Head Movement?

I quit reading your post when I read that idiotic comment.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:10 PM   #57
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Chagaev got totally dominated and his corner pulled him out even though Chagaev had taken way less than half of the beating Wach took after round eight.
Chagaev's corner did the responsible thing. Wach's should have pulled their fighter out after eight IMO. That beating he took probably will affect him down the road. The Shannon Brigg's beatdown by Vitali should have been stopped earlier also. Both Wach and Brigg's had already proven their grit and courage. No point in prolonging these one-sided beatings for the full twelve rounds. The fighter's are too brave and proud to quit so the corners need to step up.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:17 PM   #58
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when did quitali ever throw a one punch KO shot?
I don't recall the Older Klit ever getting a one punch KO...
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:18 PM   #59
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I don't recall the Older Klit ever getting a one punch KO...
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:19 PM   #60
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Herbie Hide was knocked out by one thunderous shot by Vitali

Herbie was a great Heavyweight fighter
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