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Old 11-15-2012, 06:38 AM   #31
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where was there a single sign that he was being sarcastic toots?

might have been a huge fanboi for all i know.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:41 AM   #32
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well yeah but Froch was a heavy underdog against Bute too.

i'm not saying it wasn't a good performance, just taking into account all the factors.
Froch too has been in excellent form. Because he is still 'active', I have put him below Benn for the moment, just in case he has an 'embarrassing' accident or two in the future.

But on the plus side, he is the only 'active' fighter (hopefully Reid has called it a day) in my top 10, and thus he is the only one capable of challenging Calzaghe for the #1 spot. And more victories like the one against Bute, are going to give him a chance of dislodging the Welshman.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:58 AM   #33
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Froch too has been in excellent form. Because he is still 'active', I have put him below Benn for the moment, just in case he has an 'embarrassing' accident or two in the future.

But on the plus side, he is the only 'active' fighter (hopefully Reid has called it a day) in my top 10, and thus he is the only one capable of challenging Calzaghe for the #1 spot. And more victories like the one against Bute, are going to give him a chance of dislodging the Welshman.

For me to rate Froch above Calzaghe - Froch would need to beat Kessler and Ward in rematches
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:01 AM   #34
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For me to rate Froch above Calzaghe - Froch would need to beat Kessler and Ward in rematches
Yes, that might do it.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:02 AM   #35
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Benn
Froch
Eubanks
Calzaghe
Reid

That's top 5

Reid and Calzaghe are interchangeable.

Reid got robbed against ottke and Calzaghe, if he'd gotten the deserved decision then calzaghe wouldn't be unbeaten and probably wouldn't make top 10
Robbed against Ottke but not Calzaghe. You're missusing the word.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:03 AM   #36
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Pretty awesome list of fighters whatever order you have it in especially as its a relatively new weight class. Anyone want to do their American SMW atg list and see which nation is best at the weight.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:27 AM   #37
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For me to rate Froch above Calzaghe - Froch would need to beat Kessler and Ward in rematches
That will never happen, it's impossible unless someone in the stands shoots ward with a tranquilizer.

Ward isn't unbeatable but froch has got far too many flaws to pull it off, i'd actually give Pascal a better chance at beating Ward, that's the fight I want to see actually.

Froch has a decent shout against Kessler though.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:35 AM   #38
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i rarely say one fighter beating another is impossible, froch beating ward isnt impossible, improbable, but a man at the top end of the division has a chance of beating anybody, froch is no2, ward is no1, this isnt a mismatch, nor was he outclassed last time. he fought the wrong fight and didnt get into gear til the last 3 or so rounds, outclassed is being beat up for the majority, i never felt he was being beat up he just couldnt land naything on ward. Now its likely ward negates him agani, but its not impossible Froch could beat Ward, and he'll probably beat Kessler so he may as well have another crack at Ward afterwards then retire whatever happens
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:32 AM   #39
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Jock McAvoy
Bert Gilroy
Nigel Benn
Michael Watson
Joe Calzaghe

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Old 11-15-2012, 12:13 PM   #40
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Robbed against Ottke but not Calzaghe. You're missusing the word.
I beg to differ that fight could have went either way dependant on what the judges were looking for, but on my scorecard that night i had robin reid winning the fight.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:37 PM   #41
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1. Froch
2. Calzaghe
3. Benn
4. Eubank
5. Reid
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:42 PM   #42
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I beg to differ that fight could have went either way dependant on what the judges were looking for, but on my scorecard that night i had robin reid winning the fight.
So you are saying it was not a robbery, as it could of gone either way, like Boro chris suggests...
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:56 PM   #43
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Pretty awesome list of fighters whatever order you have it in especially as its a relatively new weight class. Anyone want to do their American SMW atg list and see which nation is best at the weight.
1 Roy Jones Jr
2 Andre Ward
3 James Toney
4 Frankie Liles
5 Michael Nunn
6 Tommy Hearns
7 Lindell Holmes
8 Ray Leonard
9 Byron Mitchell
10 Iran Barkley

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Old 11-15-2012, 01:05 PM   #44
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I didn't think the judges were the problem for Reid V Ottke.

It was the fact that Reid was up against the ref as well as Ottke. He docked a point(s) off Reid for nothing, called a slip when Ottke got genuinely knocked down, and even told Reid off for landing clean punches on Ottke.

Reid was simply not allowed to work properly, although despite this he did win the share of the earlier rounds. Ottke actually came back well in the later stages, whilst Reid kind of switched off, and two of the judges got it right with a two point margin to Ottke.

The way Reid got treated was criminal, but it was by the ref, not the judges.
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