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I had it close 114-113 for froch, he's constantly going forward, dirrell was far too negative, add the fact that Froch was the champ and had home advantage the right mans hand was raised at the end.
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It was one of those fights, depends how you like to score them. If you look at it on terms of punches landed then Dirrell probably won the fight. However if you take into account that Froch was the aggressor the whole night and that Dirrell was guilty of gamesmanship with his holding and dropping to the floor and complaining then you may score the rounds a bit differently, particularly the ones with little action from either side that might be a scored 10/10. The americans always score more for aggression and I tend to do this too, plus taking into consideration the harder more meaningful shots rather than volume. That being said many people score rounds to people for punches that hit gloves though, those aren't scoring punches and you can only award rounds to someone for industry if they have taken nothing in return.
I think the Calzaghe/Hopkins fight is the one that divides a lot of people. I have watched it so many times and can never make a case for Calzaghe because he just lands almost nothing the whole fight. All the meaningful shots were by Hopkins but he did spoil a lot and play act and pussied out of the later rounds totally. However, he just landed the only decent hard shots of the fight other than one left hand I think Calzaghe landed. He won it purely on forcing the fight and throwing more but I still think he lost! |
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I had it 118-112 Dirrell.
To be honest it was one of the worst robberies I've seen live, Dirrell took froch to school and made him look like a caveman. And late on, Dirrell almost knocked Froch out |
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I don't think it was that wide at all I probably scored it to Dirrell but every time Froch did get close to him he looked dangerous and threw shots with bad intentions and occasionally landed, whereas Dirrell spent a lot of the fight going backwards and landing with flurries from what I remember. I certainly don't remember Froch ever being close to getting KO'd even if he took some punishment!
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would never rewatch it Dirrell won tho quite easily
i know he spoiled and held and dived to the floor but he actually landed a decent amount of punches whereas Froch didnt i always wondered what the punchstats woulda been like for that fight |
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Those stats could have been pretty damning for Froch but as ever they never tell the whole story, the truth is that it was hard to feel sorry for Dirrell as he could have won it convincingly had he not been so negative and shown a bit more heart. His performance in the Abraham fight made it even harder!
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I had it 114-113 Dirrell back then.
But I was really glad they gave it to Froch, bacause I when you're fighting with so much negativity you don't deserve to win the belt imo. |
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I watched it live in Nottingham. Great crowd with a brilliant atmosphere but what a terrible, terrible main event. Seriously shit fight.
I had it down as a draw, but it makes sense to me that Froch got the result - against a hostile crowd in a foreign land, Dirrell just didn't do enough and was too negative to rip the belt away from the champ, which is what you need to do in such situations. |
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Close fight but Dirrells negativity lost it for him. He wasn't there to win and if he didn't land a punch, it just oozed of cowardice.
Maybe a point or two for Carl when I watched it. Every round was there for Dirrell but he'd always be too scared to finish strong or keep on top of the round. The theatrics versus Abrahams proved further who Dirrell is and bottling the Ward fight showed even more. Quality athlete but not a fighter. |
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Terrible terrible fight. Aaarghh I'm now getting tempted to rewatch it
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Watched it twice, God knows why for a second time, but both times for Dirrell. It was a close fight but a clear win for Dirrell IMO. I don't think Froch won enough rounds to even draw it.
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