Is Vitaly Underated

[Boxed Ears]

Originally Posted by thesandman

Today, I have read:

Wlad has been dominant in the HW division for years.
Vitaly has been dominant in the HW division for years.

I then looked up the word dominant. I am now a little confused.

It means they weren't floored.

[stanislove12]

Originally Posted by thesandman

Today, I have read:

Wlad has been dominant in the HW division for years.
Vitaly has been dominant in the HW division for years.

I then looked up the word dominant. I am now a little confused.

they didn't fight eachother but fighting everyone else they have been dominanat... but i know what you mean... doesn't fully fit the word considering there are two.

[stanislove12]

Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

Well, any fighter is going to end up underrated by his detractors and overrated by his diehard fans. That said, Vitali is so divisive he ends up having an inordinate amount of diehard fans and an inordinate amount of detractors. Therefore, he is both extremely underrated and extremely overrated.

aside from the very few hardcore fans i don't see anyone else over rate Vitaly... its always Wlad this Wlad that. Vitaly is generally somewhere top 50 on most people's lists from what i've read

[Zapper1608]

I think his skills are underrated, he is skillwise better than Wladimir. You can't blame a guy for trusting in his chin, rather than playing it safe.

[Boxed Ears]

Originally Posted by stanislove12

aside from the very few hardcore fans i don't see anyone else over rate Vitaly... its always Wlad this Wlad that. Vitaly is generally somewhere top 50 on most people's lists from what i've read

You must not spend the amount of time I spend on here. I don't blame you. Most people like it outside.

[SuzieQ49]

Vitali cherrypicks his oposition, never takes on the best heavyweights in the division like his brother Wlad. If he goes out with his last fight being that pathetic fight against manuel charr, his legacy will remain a mystery.

[crippet]

No fighter in history would have an easy time with Vitali - when posters say someone would destroy him, he is being under rated.

But when posters come on claiming he was unbeatable refusing to acknowledge the result of the Lewis fight etc - he is over rated

Unfortunately sharing the era with his brother will dilute both Klitschkos legacies - Unfortunate for it is what it is

[Todd498]

Originally Posted by ottkeruiz

u know what i'm talking about man, do i need 2 spell it out for u - i'm talking about real asians with the eyes & teeth & everything man - they ain't here yet but they about to make em big enough to be in the heavyweight look at yow ming

lol!!

[Stinky gloves]

I think he is right up there with the rate, most people have him within their top 15-20 ATG.
With his KO and h2h the rating may be top 10 but Vitaly lack big caliber wins, he lost
the only big fight he had ... doesn't matter that on cuts but he lost to the only other ATG
he faced and nothing is going to change that. His frequent injuries are not helping him either.

If you think H2H comparison then he is going to lose against his 'current' brother so if they
were fighting withing the last 3-4 years Vitaly would not be a champion at the age of 41 anymore.

... so top 15-20 ATG is right with him which is not bad at all.

If he keep going for another 2-3 years winning like another 5-6 fights then he may
jump into the top 10-15 spot range without being overrated.

[Andy McNab]

3) Being a world champion at 41 one years of age

You fucking drunk or what?

[stanislove12]

Originally Posted by Andy McNab

You fucking drunk or what?

That was a poorly formed sentence on my behalf... i am not drunk though.

[JAB5239]

Originally Posted by Meow

I'm guessing due to your stupidity you don't know the definition of hypocrite. Go on dictionary.com and find out now.

And Im guessing you don't know the definition to the word hypocrite either. Aren't you the one who said this little gem?

"But anyway, to address your stupidity, the definition of self inflicted injury is not INTENTIONLY hurt himself."

And aren't these in fact the definitions of self inflicted injuries?

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adj. Inflicted or imposed on oneself:

self-inflicted adj (of an injury) having been inflicted on oneself by oneself

A self-inflicted wound (SIW), is the act of harming oneself where there are no underlying psychological problems related to the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], but where the injurer wanted to take advantage of being injured.

You go ahead and keep calling other people hypocrites and trying to say Vittles caused his own injury against Byrd.....it entertains me!

[locard]

Ofc he is, Vitali is probably the H2H GOAT and if it wasn't for the 4 year layoff, Dr. Ironfist would be the one ruling the division with an iron fist precissely

Wlad is where he is just because big bro allows it, never forget that.

[JAB5239]

Originally Posted by locard

Ofc he is, Vitali is probably the H2H GOAT and if it wasn't for the 4 year layoff, Dr. Ironfist would be the one ruling the division with an iron fist precissely

Wlad is where he is just because big bro allows it, never forget that.

No, Wlad is the much better of the two and is the one allowing big brother to have a small slice of the pie.

[dyna]

Originally Posted by locard

Ofc he is, Vitali is probably the H2H GOAT and if it wasn't for the 4 year layoff, Dr. Ironfist would be the one ruling the division with an iron fist precissely

Wlad is where he is just because big bro allows it, never forget that.

Lewis is probably the H2H GOAT...
Not because of tko6...

I rank Wlad higher than Vitali, but some rate Vitali higher so depending who you think is better they replace each others spot.

When compared to his younger brother I believe Vitali is overrated a lot.