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Old 11-15-2012, 12:58 PM   #1
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Default Has Marquez wasted the last few years chasing Pacquaio

There's been some great fights for him at 140, Khan, Matthysse, Rios etc.

Only person he seems to want to fight is Pacquaio, he got robbed 3 times imo, he thinks he got robbed and many other people do, he proved in the last fight despite the decision he's the better man.

He could be in some great fights outside of Pacquiao again and again.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:03 PM   #2
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Default Re: Has Marquez wasted the last few years chasing Pacquaio

Khan, Matthysse and Rios all pupped up recently
Well Khan not so recent but at the time Marquez was fighting at 135.
Marquez ran after Pacquiao to Lightweight, beat two of the best there and lost to Floyd.
After that he moved down, rematched Diaz and fought his Mandatory.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:07 PM   #3
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Default Re: Has Marquez wasted the last few years chasing Pacquaio

One fight a year with Pac puts him way ahead of what he could do otherwise.

Now, if he had not got the fights, it would have been a waste.

In the last 3 years, he's had 3 huge fights(counting this one coming up), in addition to others. If you asked him, I don't think he would have changed a thing. He's accumulated a lot of wealth over the last few years.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:35 PM   #4
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Default Re: Has Marquez wasted the last few years chasing Pacquaio

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One fight a year with Pac puts him way ahead of what he could do otherwise.
Some how Fans always seem to forget these guys fight for MONEY not for free Robert Garcia himself said why would Marquez fight someone like brandon for 1 million dollars when he fights Pac for 10 million
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:42 PM   #5
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Default Re: Has Marquez wasted the last few years chasing Pacquaio

The way I think of it is that without Manny, he would have just retired anyway. I would have loved to see those fights, but at his age, it's not important, especially considering all he's accomplished.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:45 PM   #6
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Default Re: Has Marquez wasted the last few years chasing Pacquaio

Yes and No. I would have loved to see him face guys like Guerrero and Campbell.
However he has given us classics with Pac that will go down in the hall of fame.


He has tamed a beast that everyone saw as being unbeatable.
From his FW days people said he was going to be great. JMM beat him there.
At his SFW they said he was finally a 2 handed fighter. JMM beat him there.
At WW he blitzed through much bigger men and was consider somewhat of a Armstrong. JMM beat him there.

People have always ignored JMM because of his counter punching style so he is not the star Pac is but when people say who was the best of this decade and they say Pac they have to put an asterik by their response as one man bested him 3 times during Pacs amazing run.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:49 PM   #7
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Default Re: Has Marquez wasted the last few years chasing Pacquaio

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There's been some great fights for him at 140, Khan, Matthysse, Rios etc.

Only person he seems to want to fight is Pacquaio, he got robbed 3 times imo, he thinks he got robbed and many other people do, he proved in the last fight despite the decision he's the better man.

He could be in some great fights outside of Pacquiao again and again.
Nope. He's made a ton of friggin money going up against an ATG.

The other guys you noted (Kahn, Matthysse, Rios) are younger, stronger and fresher than Pacquiao and would arguably be tougher fights for Marquez. Not to mention they'd make him a lot less money.

Also, please quit using the word "rob". You can say you felt he won, or he got the short end of the decision, etc. But a robbery is like Lara-Williams, Abril-Rios, etc. The Pac-Marquez fights were close, competetive and could've gone either way.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:55 PM   #8
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Yes and No. I would have loved to see him face guys like Guerrero and Campbell.
However he has given us classics with Pac that will go down in the hall of fame.


He has tamed a beast that everyone saw as being unbeatable.
From his FW days people said he was going to be great. JMM beat him there.
At his SFW they said he was finally a 2 handed fighter. JMM beat him there.
At WW he blitzed through much bigger men and was consider somewhat of a Armstrong. JMM beat him there.

People have always ignored JMM because of his counter punching style so he is not the star Pac is but when people say who was the best of this decade and they say Pac they have to put an asterik by their response as one man bested him 3 times during Pacs amazing run.


In fact, even though I don't blame Floyd's side exclusively for negotiations constantly falling apart (Arum, etc.), it makes him seem so irrelevant as these two continue. This is a drama that has been developing throughout a decade in classic fights; Floyd's drama with Manny turned up to be just a lot of hot air.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:22 PM   #9
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Nope. He's made a ton of friggin money going up against an ATG.

The other guys you noted (Kahn, Matthysse, Rios) are younger, stronger and fresher than Pacquiao and would arguably be tougher fights for Marquez. Not to mention they'd make him a lot less money.

Also, please quit using the word "rob". You can say you felt he won, or he got the short end of the decision, etc. But a robbery is like Lara-Williams, Abril-Rios, etc. The Pac-Marquez fights were close, competetive and could've gone either way.
Every time a fight is close it doesnt mean it could have gone either way
If i watched it 3 times and scored it for the same fighter every time but he did not get the decision then i believe he was robbed.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:24 PM   #10
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Not really, no.

Marquez has built a solid legacy over the past few years and has made some real good cake too, so he's got nothing to dwell over.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:36 PM   #11
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Default Re: Has Marquez wasted the last few years chasing Pacquaio

in the last 5 years he could have became the lineal champ at 140 IMO
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:56 PM   #12
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Maybe. If he would of gotten the nod in the fights he would of have fought others. Even now I still think he can dominate eveyone in his division.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:59 PM   #13
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Default Re: Has Marquez wasted the last few years chasing Pacquaio

He's made a ton of money and given fans both of his and the sport some great battles. He was in the FOTY against Diaz and a FOTY candidate against Katsidis, a cash out farce against Mayweather, and some epic battles with Pac, particularly #2.

His last few years **** on the prime years of many of the guys who get adoration around here.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:39 PM   #14
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Default Re: Has Marquez wasted the last few years chasing Pacquaio

JMM is a whiny crybaby and a **** drinker. So tired and bored with that asshole.
Get a different fight you douche.
And Pac,try knocking this guy out! Dont let him get off the hook like Bradley.
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