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Old 11-15-2012, 06:51 AM   #31
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One day, we'll see some worthy challengers, like Wepner, London, Musto, Rademacher, McNeeley, Rodriguez and Ferguson. Those were the murderers' row challengers. Things will never be like they were though. In the golden days of pugilism. For then, men were men, title challengers were always made of iron and had HOF resumes and earned their title shots the hard way, swimming against the tide. What I wouldn't give for a JP Coopman or Richie Dunn, right about now. Ali wouldn't get out of bed to fight a guy like Thompson.
^Pay attention to this post, brittards.

Wlad is staying active. 6 or 7 heavyweight CONTENDERS are ducking him.

One fight was a mandatory (let it go, it was a ****ing mandatory), one fight was against a huge undefeated, iron chinned, but limited fighter, the last was a poor opponent who was easily dispatched.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:55 AM   #32
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The fighters that fans on here say are his biggest threats Price, Fury, Mitchell, and Povetkin either aren't ready or won't fight him or both. What in the **** is he supposed to do? Sit on the couch?

Steward touched on this several times as he said in his 50 years or so in Boxing he NEVER saw so many Heavyweight Contenders afraid to take a title shot.
Both Fury and Price's camps have made it clear, they only want to fight either of the Klitschko's as a mandatory.

And I don't blame them either.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:05 AM   #33
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One day, we'll see some worthy challengers, like Wepner, London, Musto, Rademacher, McNeeley, Rodriguez and Ferguson. Those were the murderers' row challengers. Things will never be like they were though. In the golden days of pugilism. For then, men were men, title challengers were always made of iron and had HOF resumes and earned their title shots the hard way, swimming against the tide. What I wouldn't give for a JP Coopman or Richie Dunn, right about now. Ali wouldn't get out of bed to fight a guy like Thompson.


The amount of hatred is incredible... just incredible
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:05 AM   #34
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:13 AM   #35
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There is guys to fight but they aren't "ready". They are afraid that's what.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:09 PM   #36
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You guys are just making excuses for this guy. Ok let's say he has one bad fight out of 3 but 3 bad fights out of 3? Mormeck? Inexcusable.
As I said,Sherman "the Tank" Williams would have put on a better fight than Mormeck and Tony Thompson. Williams also has a solid chin and beat the highly touted Chauncy Welliver and he rocked granite chinned Helenius.

Either way,this year was a huge waste of time for Wlad and he won't be champion for long.
He's gonna have to face Pulev,Fury,Price,Arreola,Mitchell etc.
One or maybe 2 of those guys are gonna beat him.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:10 PM   #37
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Dont be so sure that Huck can't threaten Wlad. Wlad was scared to engage con man Haye. Huck isn't a scared little bitch and he will come to fight Wlad.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:15 PM   #38
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2012 was a good year for Waldo. 3 fights, 1 mandatory, no injuries. 2013 could see Povetkin & Pulev I hope so that should be even better.
Povetkin was easliy handled by Huck. He has zero chance with Wlad.
Pulev is the guy that can beat Wladimir.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:18 PM   #39
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Why do you say he's as cautious as ever? Have you even seen the Wach fight?
He let Mormeck go 4 rounds! He even clinched Mormeck a few times as if Mormeck wasnt a 40 year old Cruiserweight with no power=cautious,scared etc

And Wach another guy with improprer techniauqe and limited power had Wlad leaning against the ropes and covering up and gassed!
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:18 PM   #40
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:34 PM   #41
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They have all the negotiation power. Why should they give power away to opponents who can't draw flies to shit? In your first job, did you demand the same salary as the CEO? You had no negotiation power, just like most of his opponents don't. Wlad brings in the $$$, not them.
Their demands go way, WAY beyond anything in the business. Why the hell are you defending a blatant slave contract? Your devotion to K2 surely can't delude you that bad, can it? I want you to listen up: Even if you beat Wlad, in which case YOU were the undisputed champ, K2 Promotions would stage the next two mandatory fights against either Klit with you on the financially short end. So if you want to be the champ, you have to beat the Klits three consecutive times and fight by their rules, their location and their visionnof how the money is split.
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Dont be so sure that Huck can't threaten Wlad. Wlad was scared to engage con man Haye. Huck isn't a scared little bitch and he will come to fight Wlad.
Haye has speed and power. Huck has neither. If Wlad fights Huck there'll be a ton of people complaining he is fighting an undersized bum.
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He let Mormeck go 4 rounds! He even clinched Mormeck a few times as if Mormeck wasnt a 40 year old Cruiserweight with no power=cautious,scared etc

And Wach another guy with improprer techniauqe and limited power had Wlad leaning against the ropes and covering up and gassed!
Mormeck wanted to fight inside because he had zero chance on the outside so he continually got as close to Klitschko as he could which resulted in a lot of clinching. Haye on the other hand ran the whole night which is why there wasn't much clinching.

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Old 11-15-2012, 04:56 PM   #44
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Their demands go way, WAY beyond anything in the business. Why the hell are you defending a blatant slave contract? Your devotion to K2 surely can't delude you that bad, can it? I want you to listen up: Even if you beat Wlad, in which case YOU were the undisputed champ, K2 Promotions would stage the next two mandatory fights against either Klit with you on the financially short end. So if you want to be the champ, you have to beat the Klits three consecutive times and fight by their rules, their location and their visionnof how the money is split.
Oh my, so let me get this straight. You haven't beaten a legit contender, have made no name for yourself and rarely get paid more than 10k per fight. But not only do you think you are entitled to a title shot against Wlad, you somehow also deserve to get paid more than a million, despite the fact that 10 other no-names can take your place.

A guy like that should be happy to get a guaranteed shot at VK, title shots don't grow on trees.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:07 PM   #45
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Their demands go way, WAY beyond anything in the business. Why the hell are you defending a blatant slave contract? Your devotion to K2 surely can't delude you that bad, can it? I want you to listen up: Even if you beat Wlad, in which case YOU were the undisputed champ, K2 Promotions would stage the next two mandatory fights against either Klit with you on the financially short end. So if you want to be the champ, you have to beat the Klits three consecutive times and fight by their rules, their location and their visionnof how the money is split.
I would say that every single fighter that Wlad fought in the last 3 years received a career high pay day. By very definition a career high pay date can not be a slave contract.

Also if a challenger wants to put himself in a strong position to get a better contract, why don't they actually fight other contenders and build up a name for himself so they are a bigger name? No one apart from Pulev is doing it. If you fight overmatched opponents and then whinge about getting a shit contract for a title shot - you only have yourself to blame.

The fact is - pretty much any heavyweight challenger at the moment can be dismissed as a waste of time fight for Wlad - I think Pulev will be an exception soon.
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