Thoughts On Antofurmo/Hagler I & II?

[Dave's Top Ten]

Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

Wow..I don't see any way hagler won 11-14, and certainly not all of them! IMHO!

Well its on YouTube for all to see...check it out !

[Dave's Top Ten]

Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

Wow..I don't see any way hagler won 11-14, and certainly not all of them! IMHO!

I gave Vito round 13. The thing to take into consideration in this fight, and many similar fights, is that just because a fighter who was getting beaten earlier on starts to do better, it doesn't necessarily mean he is now winning. It simply means he's losing closer rounds.

[PhillyPhan69]

Originally Posted by Dave's Top Ten

I gave Vito round 13. The thing to take into consideration in this fight, and many similar fights, is that just because a fighter who was getting beaten earlier on starts to do better, it doesn't necessarily mean he is now winning. It simply means he's losing closer rounds.

Look back a page and see that Sal saw it pretty much the same way (although we differed on rd 11)...I have not heard of anyone giving all of these rds to Hagler.

[PhillyPhan69]

Originally Posted by Dave's Top Ten

Well its on YouTube for all to see...check it out !

I have it on disc...I don't like you tube's unclear screen....although I use it in a pinch!

[Dave's Top Ten]

Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

Look back a page and see that Sal saw it pretty much the same way (although we differed on rd 11)...I have not heard of anyone giving all of these rds to Hagler.

Giving Hagler a victory by 5 or 6 rounds is not outrageous. I have commonly seen other people's opinion of a 5 round win for Hagler on the ESB boards and other places. Who's Sal, the god of all judges? As incredulous as you may be at my scoring, I am equally bewildered at yours. "What are you watching" is probably what we are both thinking.
Vito fought a rugged fight and some of the rounds were close but it doesn't mean he won them. Big hearts win sympathy and rounds (unjustifiably) sometimes and that is one of the many flaws in boxing scoring. It's a massively flawed system, but I think we all know that.

[ThinBlack]

The first fight I had 11-3-1 for Marvin, even though Vito made him back up frequently, Marvin was still tagging him.The second fight, the unfortunate butt happened, but Marvin was just about to get warmed up when the fight was stopped, he would've had Vito out of there by the ninth round.