Sam Soliman vs Felix Sturm Feb 2 - Page 2

Onemangang · 11-15-2012, 07:05 PM

Very entertaining match up, Sturm to win a very close one.

Straight Shoota · 11-15-2012, 09:22 PM

What a fucking idiot Soliman is...Work your ass off to get in a position to get a world title shot..then jump at a pay day,against Wright and lose,and your chance at a title.THEEENNNNNNNN years and years later,DO THE SAME FUCKING THING??..your going to germany,STURM AINT GONNA LOSE TWICE IN GERMANY,soliman dont have gary shaw in his corner to have a input on judges/refs etc..he is going over there to be sturms tune up. FUCKING IDIOOOOOOOT SOLIMAN

The Spider · 11-15-2012, 09:32 PM

Sam Soliman would have needed a fight prior to meeting the winner of Geale vs Mundine in the first quarter of 2013. But this fight, assuming it happens, doesn't make a lot of strategic sense for Soliman, and I think Sturm beats him.

Soliman has struggled to get the right fights at the right time throughout his career - he missed out on fighting Lee a while back as an example - and may have just thought this Sturm fight too good an opportunity to pass up.

hookoffthejab · 11-15-2012, 09:47 PM

and what happens to a geale vs soliman fight if mundane wins tony wont fight sammy again so its off to germany to face felix and sitting around waiting for a chance or actually signing for a big shot is a huge difference sammy has spent plenty of time in the past as sparing partner in europe and fighting he was based over there for a while so going back over there wont be a stretch for him ...

mrdoctor · 11-15-2012, 11:35 PM

WTF?sillyman is going to Germany to fight strurm,huge props to him if true!!
Wow just wow!!!!

Sox · 11-16-2012, 01:46 AM

Very brave move for Sam, he'll get beaten by Sturm, and be left in the shit like someone else said.
Hopefully it's worth it $$ wise.

He'd actually be better off fighting a can (should have tried to get on Geale/Mandy undercard?), and then fight Geale.

fighta29 · 11-16-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sox

Very brave move for Sam, he'll get beaten by Sturm, and be left in the shit like someone else said.
Hopefully it's worth it $$ wise.

He'd actually be better off fighting a can (should have tried to get on Geale/Mandy undercard?), and then fight Geale.

No chance of getting on the undercard. He's a grub and they want nothing to do with him.

fighta29 · 11-16-2012, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mrdoctor

WTF?sillyman is going to Germany to fight strurm,huge props to him if true!!
Wow just wow!!!!

He needs these sort of fights, as he's nearly done. He will get beaten a few times now but needs the pay.

ipswich express · 11-16-2012, 03:04 AM

Boys it's prizefighting. He'd get more to fight Sturm in Germany than he would by fighting Geale. Great opportunity for him.

bruiserh · 11-16-2012, 03:18 AM

I hope Le Beave isn't too disappointed that Soliman didnt make the announcement this Friday. My twitter source has let me down

buster007 · 11-16-2012, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ipswich express

Boys it's prizefighting. He'd get more to fight Sturm in Germany than he would by fighting Geale. Great opportunity for him.

i don't know how u can be so sure about that tbh?

i'd like to see how u work out the figures for it.

ipswich express · 11-16-2012, 03:54 AM

Soliman, as we all know, is in the mandatory position for the IBF. Under IBF rules, he's entitled to a split of 25% of any purse bid scenario, with Geale getting 75%.

Soliman does not have a big promotional company behind him so there's little to no chance of his winning a purse bid. There'd be next to no interest from overseas promoters to bid on a fight between two Australians...

So Geale's promotional team can effectively offer a low figure for him to fight, which they'd be entitled to, or go to purse bids which they'll win anyway and still Sam would only get 25%.

Sturm has German TV onside, RTL I think, and is known to pay his opponents well due to this revenue. I'm not saying the fight is happening, but I wouldn't blame Sam for taking it, if it does.

bruiserh · 11-16-2012, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ipswich express

Soliman, as we all know, is in the mandatory position for the IBF. Under IBF rules, he's entitled to a split of 25% of any purse bid scenario, with Geale getting 75%.

Soliman does not have a big promotional company behind him so there's little to no chance of his winning a purse bid. There'd be next to no interest from overseas promoters to bid on a fight between two Australians...

So Geale's promotional team can effectively offer a low figure for him to fight, which they'd be entitled to, or go to purse bids which they'll win anyway and still Sam would only get 25%.

Sturm has German TV onside, RTL I think, and is known to pay his opponents well due to this revenue. I'm not saying the fight is happening, but I wouldn't blame Sam for taking it, if it does.

i think that covers it ippy

fighta29 · 11-16-2012, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ipswich express

Soliman, as we all know, is in the mandatory position for the IBF. Under IBF rules, he's entitled to a split of 25% of any purse bid scenario, with Geale getting 75%.

Soliman does not have a big promotional company behind him so there's little to no chance of his winning a purse bid. There'd be next to no interest from overseas promoters to bid on a fight between two Australians...

So Geale's promotional team can effectively offer a low figure for him to fight, which they'd be entitled to, or go to purse bids which they'll win anyway and still Sam would only get 25%.

Sturm has German TV onside, RTL I think, and is known to pay his opponents well due to this revenue. I'm not saying the fight is happening, but I wouldn't blame Sam for taking it, if it does.

This

buster007 · 11-16-2012, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ipswich express

Soliman, as we all know, is in the mandatory position for the IBF. Under IBF rules, he's entitled to a split of 25% of any purse bid scenario, with Geale getting 75%.

Soliman does not have a big promotional company behind him so there's little to no chance of his winning a purse bid. There'd be next to no interest from overseas promoters to bid on a fight between two Australians...

So Geale's promotional team can effectively offer a low figure for him to fight, which they'd be entitled to, or go to purse bids which they'll win anyway and still Sam would only get 25%.

Sturm has German TV onside, RTL I think, and is known to pay his opponents well due to this revenue. I'm not saying the fight is happening, but I wouldn't blame Sam for taking it, if it does.

thats a very vague statement.

tell us figures.

11-15-2012, 07:05 PM	#16
Onemangang newbie Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 29 vCash: 500	Re: Sam Soliman to announce next opponent tomorrow Very entertaining match up, Sturm to win a very close one.
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11-15-2012, 09:22 PM	#17
Straight Shoota Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Back...Way Backkkkk Posts: 967 vCash: 500	Re: Sam Soliman to announce next opponent tomorrow What a fucking idiot Soliman is...Work your ass off to get in a position to get a world title shot..then jump at a pay day,against Wright and lose,and your chance at a title.THEEENNNNNNNN years and years later,DO THE SAME FUCKING THING??..your going to germany,STURM AINT GONNA LOSE TWICE IN GERMANY,soliman dont have gary shaw in his corner to have a input on judges/refs etc..he is going over there to be sturms tune up. FUCKING IDIOOOOOOOT SOLIMAN
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11-15-2012, 09:32 PM	#18
The Spider boogidy boogidy boogidy East Side Guru Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 9,522 vCash: 454	Re: Sam Soliman to announce next opponent tomorrow Sam Soliman would have needed a fight prior to meeting the winner of Geale vs Mundine in the first quarter of 2013. But this fight, assuming it happens, doesn't make a lot of strategic sense for Soliman, and I think Sturm beats him. Soliman has struggled to get the right fights at the right time throughout his career - he missed out on fighting Lee a while back as an example - and may have just thought this Sturm fight too good an opportunity to pass up.
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11-15-2012, 09:47 PM	#19
hookoffthejab Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 180 vCash: 500	Re: Sam Soliman to announce next opponent tomorrow and what happens to a geale vs soliman fight if mundane wins tony wont fight sammy again so its off to germany to face felix and sitting around waiting for a chance or actually signing for a big shot is a huge difference sammy has spent plenty of time in the past as sparing partner in europe and fighting he was based over there for a while so going back over there wont be a stretch for him ...
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11-15-2012, 11:35 PM	#20
mrdoctor Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,403 vCash: 300	Re: Sam Soliman to announce next opponent tomorrow WTF?sillyman is going to Germany to fight strurm,huge props to him if true!! Wow just wow!!!!
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11-16-2012, 01:46 AM	#21
Sox Hangin with the real deal East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rural OZ Posts: 5,793 vCash: 1044	Re: Sam Soliman to announce next opponent tomorrow Very brave move for Sam, he'll get beaten by Sturm, and be left in the shit like someone else said. Hopefully it's worth it $$ wise. He'd actually be better off fighting a can (should have tried to get on Geale/Mandy undercard?), and then fight Geale.
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11-16-2012, 03:04 AM	#24
ipswich express Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,136 vCash: 75	Re: Sam Soliman to announce next opponent tomorrow Boys it's prizefighting. He'd get more to fight Sturm in Germany than he would by fighting Geale. Great opportunity for him.
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11-16-2012, 03:18 AM	#25
bruiserh Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Belcompton Posts: 1,141 vCash: 500	Re: Sam Soliman to announce next opponent tomorrow I hope Le Beave isn't too disappointed that Soliman didnt make the announcement this Friday. My twitter source has let me down
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11-16-2012, 03:54 AM	#27
ipswich express Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,136 vCash: 75	Re: Sam Soliman to announce next opponent tomorrow Soliman, as we all know, is in the mandatory position for the IBF. Under IBF rules, he's entitled to a split of 25% of any purse bid scenario, with Geale getting 75%. Soliman does not have a big promotional company behind him so there's little to no chance of his winning a purse bid. There'd be next to no interest from overseas promoters to bid on a fight between two Australians... So Geale's promotional team can effectively offer a low figure for him to fight, which they'd be entitled to, or go to purse bids which they'll win anyway and still Sam would only get 25%. Sturm has German TV onside, RTL I think, and is known to pay his opponents well due to this revenue. I'm not saying the fight is happening, but I wouldn't blame Sam for taking it, if it does.
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