My 50 Greatest boxers of all time

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Boxing News' top 100 special had Yuh ahead of Chang and Fighting Harada didn't make the list?!?! I was fuming

And yes mate I'm a massive fan. Can't wait to see who Walt is taking down with that gun...hope it's not Hank!!!

Some lists will always have things you don't agree with, but then others are just bizarre...

I hope he skills Skyler, the bish.

[Flea Man]

Yeah, me too

[The Mighty One]

Originally Posted by orriray59

These P4P lists were invented so we could rank fighters fairly regardless of what weight class they fight in.

That seems to have flown over your head, though.

Oh....okay now I understand.

So then who is the greatest P4P NBA basketball team?.....NFL football team?..... NHL hockey team?..... In fact which country has the greatest P4P armed forces?

Only in boxing do we project that a 112 pounder can beat a 200 pounder in one on one competition.

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by The Mighty One

Oh....okay now I understand.

So then who is the greatest P4P NBA basketball team?.....NFL football team?..... NHL hockey team?..... In fact which country has the greatest P4P armed forces?

Only in boxing do we project that a 112 pounder can beat a 200 pounder in one on one competition.

We're not pitting a 112 pounder against a 200 pounder. Let's say a 112 pounder is an ATG, and the 250 pounder isn't. Obviously the 250 pounder would win, but the 112 pounder is a more accomplished fighter and therefore is ranked higher in a P4P list.

What part of this are you failing to grasp? It's juvenile stuff.

[Aaron Contreras]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Cerdan shouldn't make a top 100 IMO. Unless it's 'top 100 most famous boxers'. Might make it then.

For lack of high-level competition?

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by Aaron Contreras

For lack of high-level competition?

Look at the best names he beat. Weren't at their best.

[Aaron Contreras]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Look at the best names he beat. Weren't at their best.

I agree, just curious on exactly why you thought so.

[NoNeck]

Originally Posted by Unforgiven

Sandwiched between two losses to Iran Barkley.

I'd rate Hagler above Hearns too, as would most here - (I think).
I'd be in the minority ranking Hagler above Leonard though, so it's swings and roundabouts.

On his best night, Hagler was great and I like him as a person more than just about any boxer. I feel like his place falls off a lot if it isn't a discussion of best middleweights or best chins though. Plenty of fighters who jump weightclasses have equalled or exceeded his accomplishments, they just don't have the accomplishments in one weightclass.