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Old 11-16-2012, 12:16 PM   #151
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Default Re: Referee - Tony Perez 'I Should Have DQ'd Muhammad Ali'

If nothing else,Perez was consistent with being "inept".Such flaws clearly weren't limited to his officiating of saint Ali's fights.


And there's nothing wrong with grasping at straws,lad


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Perhaps you had better give the source of this interview with Tony Perez.

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Yes a primary source is required for this

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Where is the primary source for the information posted here?


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You won't read this anywhere.



Fortunately for us,Mr Pepe had pen and paper on hand in order to take note.





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Old 11-16-2012, 12:27 PM   #152
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Tony Perez,,,

Television Interview on WNJU (New Jersey Spanish Televsion)

Check it out,,,,,,,


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Old 11-16-2012, 12:57 PM   #153
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I don't think it's just holding that is a problem with Ali's performance, it's the type of holding he employed.
He wasn't tying Frazier up like many fights would, ie. clinching Frazier's arms, he was using a blatant neck hold, something akin to wrestling move.
Frank Bruno did same thing to Tyson and was docked a point before the mid-way mark of the 1st round.

Anyway, it is what it is. The referee ignored the fouling and the rest is history.
No, Bruno was docked a point for rabbit-punching after turning Tyson in a clinch, and warned throughout the bout for holding and hitting. Like most fighters, Bruno was never penalised for holding alone.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:58 PM   #154
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Tony Perez,,,

Television Interview on WNJU (New Jersey Spanish Televsion)

Check it out,,,,,,,


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Lol. Nice bluff.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:05 PM   #155
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Lol. Nice bluff.

This lying sack of shit.

You ask him to cite a source for a fake interview you know he made up and he posts a spanish language tv station out of New Jersey.

Ok Pepe, what date did the program air. We can call up the station and confirm this story aired on that date.

Somehow I doubt youll be very forthcoming, or your memory will suddenly fail.

Kinda like that unpublished interview Ali did with Sports Illustrated where he admitted he couldnt beat Norton only to have you admit you made it up.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:09 PM   #156
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These threads are getting silly.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:33 PM   #157
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Round 11,

'13' more incredible holds. But Referee - Tony Perez did scold Mr. Ali
after the 3rd-Hold, yelling at him to stop it.

But, Mr. Perez allowed the 'incessant fouling' to continue. Mr. Ali's
3-punch flurry and grab tactic, was becoming a repetitive and pathetic
ploy to stall and steal the round.

To make matters worse, Ali's Cornermen - Angelo Dundee and Bundini Brown
were shouting instructions to their fighter, again another illegal command under
the NYSAC guidelines.

Where was Tony Perez,,,,,,,In his interview with WNJU, Tony apologized
for his bad performance, and said he himself should have been fined by
the Boxing Commission.

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Old 11-16-2012, 01:41 PM   #158
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It was '147' holds,

Illegal cuffing behind the neck, and pushing down on Joe's neck,
were legitimate calls for point deductions.

The 'Filthy Ali' could have had a point deduction in every round from
the 3rd thru the 10th, where he was averaging '11' holds per round,
totalling nealy 60-seconds of delay.

The man was 'pure filth' in the ring.
Do you think Ali was guilty of this in other fights ,or was it just because Frazier was comparatively short?
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:23 PM   #159
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Where was Tony Perez,,,,,,,In his interview with WNJU, Tony apologized
for his bad performance, and said he himself should have been fined by
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More B.S. from the David Mamet wanna be.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:24 PM   #160
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Tony Perez,,,

Television Interview on WNJU (New Jersey Spanish Televsion)

Check it out,,,,,,,



I just did.He mentioned the lawsuit,but most of the interview was simply related to Tony's rundown of the billboard charts that week.He also mentioned that he had spent the last year being stalked by a particularly crazed boxing fan who was upset with his refereeing in the second Ali-Frazier fight.Death threats,bricks thrown through his window,soiled underwear sent in the mail.



We can only hope they caught this fanatical boxing fan.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:25 PM   #161
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Do you think Ali was guilty of this in other fights ,or was it just because Frazier was comparatively short?
Every time Joe Frazier moved in, Mr. Ali would flash-punch with those
3-punch open-handed slaps, and then grab Joe behind the head and
pull him in.

Mr. Ali did not do that with Rudi Lubbers. Why ?
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