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Old 11-16-2012, 09:40 AM   #31
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Theres a reason Wlad ducked him twice, Chisora would walk through him and knock him out. Wlad hasn't been matched against a decent pressure fighter since his 'poisoning'

H2H Chisora is a top 5 HW, he would destroy frauds like Povetkin etc
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:46 AM   #32
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chisora is exciting but he wouldn't make it past the 4th round vs wlad with that wreckless shit
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:26 AM   #33
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Theres a reason Wlad ducked him twice, Chisora would walk through him and knock him out. Wlad hasn't been matched against a decent pressure fighter since his 'poisoning'

H2H Chisora is a top 5 HW, he would destroy frauds like Povetkin etc
lose 3 out of 4 fights somehow gets in your top 5.

yes, i'm sure the world agrees with you, Wlad ducks your #5 heavyweight in the world who has a total of "9" knock outs

Who hasnt had a KO in 2 years

who couldnt even knock out a guy with 43 losses in his last win.

nice post Sir Troll of Britain
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:19 AM   #34
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I hope Chisora gets his rematch against Helenius.
I think Chisora might win it again. It will be good fight that is for sure.

Good clash of styles it should create another entertaining brawl.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:22 AM   #35
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Does Helenius need him for redemption?

Does Price need him to have a complete body of work?

Does Wlad need him for anything?

How important is he to British and broader boxing?

Do you miss him?
Helenius needs him.

Price doesn't "need" him but it would be a great win and a step up on class fir him at this point in his career.

Wlad does NOT by any means need him. Chirsora would need a handful of good wins just ti make a fight with Wlad a legit match. If Wlad fought him now it would be a joke.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:37 AM   #36
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Helenius needs him.

Price doesn't "need" him but it would be a great win and a step up on class fir him at this point in his career.

Wlad does NOT by any means need him. Chirsora would need a handful of good wins just ti make a fight with Wlad a legit match. If Wlad fought him now it would be a joke.
Would you put Chisora in against Helenius next or let him have a fight against a can to break him back in?

Question to you too MaliBua (and anyone).
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:40 AM   #37
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Chisora was good for boxing and great for the heavyweight division. He's willing to fight anybody and as long as he shows up in shape, he'll make a fight of it.

Helenius doesn't need him. Honestly I think that guy is over rated - nobody with a giant beer gut is gonna become HW champion of the world. He'll continue to feed on journeymen and shot former titlists.

If Chisora were to win a few bouts and get back into contention, I think Wladimir would love to fight him. That's a very marketable fight due to all the drama during Chisora's match with Vitali. We all know he'd bring the fight to Wlad and push him out of his confort zone.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:40 AM   #38
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Would you put Chisora in against Helenius next or let him have a fight against a can to break him back in?

Question to you too MaliBua (and anyone).
I would let Chisora fight can as tune up before rematch against Helenius. Build up for the fight should be something like "unfinished business".

After last Helenius fight I no longer believe he is gonna be a top contender. Both are even level as being serious contenders.

Helenius needs Chisora in eyes of real fukin fight fans to save his face and credibility.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:49 AM   #39
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Derek needs to take a step back and re-establish himself. He needs to fight and beat a couple of cans to make himself marketable again, because he's dangerously close to being a 'name' opponent, but one known for losing the big fights.

I don't think he's got it in him to beat the better fighters (as shown) but he can still carve out a decent career for himself.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:01 PM   #40
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Would love to see Chisora in there with guys like Arreola, Povetkin, Pulev, Mitchell, etc. He makes for good fights.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:23 PM   #41
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Would you put Chisora in against Helenius next or let him have a fight against a can to break him back in?

Question to you too MaliBua (and anyone).
Straight away. Helenius looked terrible vs Tank Williams and Chisora not much better vs Haye.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:44 PM   #42
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Chisora was fun to watch. I wish he'd come to the States and clean out a few of the bums we have at heavyweight.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:55 PM   #43
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Many brittards have said that Wlad was afraid of Chisora's pressure so he passed him off to Vitali instead.

They genuinely believe it

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Theres a reason Wlad ducked him twice, Chisora would walk through him and knock him out. Wlad hasn't been matched against a decent pressure fighter since his 'poisoning'

H2H Chisora is a top 5 HW, he would destroy frauds like Povetkin etc
What did I tell you? Brittards can't help but embarrass themselves.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:08 PM   #44
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If you were handling Chisora, would you take a fight with Helenius as Chisora's next fight?
Absolutely.

Chisora desperately needs a high-profile win, and the Helenius we just saw against Tank Williams is cannon fodder.


I hope this fight actually happens. I'm so disappointed in Helenius it 'aint funny, and Chisora would FORCE him to be active & aggressive. It would be an interesting clash of styles, it would definitely end in someone geting KTFO, and assuming Helenius pulls it out, it would get hm back in the game, both mentally & physically.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:35 PM   #45
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Theres a reason Wlad ducked him twice, Chisora would walk through him and knock him out. Wlad hasn't been matched against a decent pressure fighter since his 'poisoning'

H2H Chisora is a top 5 HW, he would destroy frauds like Povetkin etc
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