Why is Mares getting any praise at 122?

EuroBot · 11-16-2012, 01:46 PM

You do realize he beat Eric Morel, a shot-to-shit BW, for the belt, which means absolutely nothing because Nishioka was really the champ; and Moreno, who is also another blown-up BW.

He is not even really a champion and has never beaten anyone ranked at the weight, and you think he deserves Nonito or Rigo?

MrMagic · 11-16-2012, 01:48 PM

Mares is growing on me, but I must admit, his blatant fouling has me irritated.

Its not that he fouls, but he does so intentionally, and the ref always lets him get away with it, because he's a golden boy nugget.

Vidic · 11-16-2012, 01:49 PM

He throws the crispest low blows in the game. Haters are just mad.

SHADOW BOX · 11-16-2012, 01:51 PM

He has arguably fought more notables than Nonito. For sure he has fought more notables than Rigo (Fact!). Also, you have to take in consideration that GBP and TR feud.

How are you going to praise Rigo and bash Mares?? WTF man...

slugger3000 · 11-16-2012, 01:52 PM

You got it all wrong OP... Mares is on Donaire's level. The real question is what has Rigo done to earn a shot @ Donaire or Mares?

tliang1000 · 11-16-2012, 01:52 PM

Moreno and Mares are both moving up to 122. 118 was filled with talented boxers and I respect Mares for wanting to fight Moreno who is a really good boxer even though he didn't have to.

saul_ir34 · 11-16-2012, 01:54 PM

Have you checked his resume? Other than he and Froch I cant think of anyone with a better recent resume. He fights the whos whos of his weight class and keeps calling out all the big names and actually fighting them.

Who else in that weight class would have fought Moreno?

lufcrazy · 11-16-2012, 02:42 PM

He's done much more than rigo.

Rigo v donaire would be amazing.

Nonito Smoak · 11-16-2012, 02:50 PM

Anyone who had him top 10 at 122 before the Moreno fight was flat out crazy, and there were many. He still shouldn't be higher ranked there than Poon or Rigo.

I think Mares barely scrapes by in all of his big fights. I scored the Darchinyan fight to Vic by 1 point, the first Agbeko fight to Mares by one point with horrible reffing and fouling which I believe clearly changed the outcome, and the same exact story with this Moreno fight, which I gave to Mares 114-112 with an awful point deduction, iffy KD, and horrible fouling by Mares. He's the dirtiest fighter in boxing at the moment as well which is no good. That said, he's in or very close to top 10 P4P.

ROACH · 11-16-2012, 02:53 PM

Mares took on Moreno who is a beast, and he whupped his ass.

Who looked like the bigger fighter on fight night? Mares or Moreno?

I thought Moreno looked bigger.

EuroBot · 11-16-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nonito Smoak

Anyone who had him top 10 at 122 before the Moreno fight was flat out crazy, and there were many. He still shouldn't be higher ranked there than Poon or Rigo.

I think Mares barely scrapes by in all of his big fights. I scored the Darchinyan fight to Vic by 1 point, the first Agbeko fight to Mares by one point with horrible reffing and fouling which I believe clearly changed the outcome, and the same exact story with this Moreno fight, which I gave to Mares 114-112 with an awful point deduction, iffy KD, and horrible fouling by Mares. He's the dirtiest fighter in boxing at the moment as well which is no good. That said, he's in or very close to top 10 P4P.

Solid post. I agree with everything you said.

Hermit · 11-16-2012, 02:59 PM

Why? Cuz his promoter is doing his job?

tliang1000 · 11-16-2012, 04:01 PM

Mares foul a little too much for my taste too

dranon · 11-16-2012, 04:59 PM

Mares is possibly the dirtiest fighter in boxing right now and IMO he is a cheater and deserves no credit for any of his tainted victories.The fact is I cant remember him ever winning one single fight over a decent opponent without blatanly fouling.

Doc · 11-16-2012, 05:13 PM

I hope mares vs terrazas is next, if not donaire.

11-16-2012, 01:46 PM	#1
EuroBot Cobra Jab ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Madrid Posts: 1,096 vCash: 500	Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? You do realize he beat Eric Morel, a shot-to-shit BW, for the belt, which means absolutely nothing because Nishioka was really the champ; and Moreno, who is also another blown-up BW. He is not even really a champion and has never beaten anyone ranked at the weight, and you think he deserves Nonito or Rigo?
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11-16-2012, 01:48 PM	#2
MrMagic Super Six East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 24,541 vCash: 1000	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? Mares is growing on me, but I must admit, his blatant fouling has me irritated. Its not that he fouls, but he does so intentionally, and the ref always lets him get away with it, because he's a golden boy nugget.
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Vidic Rest in Peace Manny East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,451 vCash: 75	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? He throws the crispest low blows in the game. Haters are just mad.
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SHADOW BOX SHADOW BOX ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,769 vCash: 1000	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? He has arguably fought more notables than Nonito. For sure he has fought more notables than Rigo (Fact!). Also, you have to take in consideration that GBP and TR feud. How are you going to praise Rigo and bash Mares?? WTF man...
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slugger3000 You Mad Bro? East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Julie Benz Island Posts: 27,636 vCash: 9653	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? You got it all wrong OP... Mares is on Donaire's level. The real question is what has Rigo done to earn a shot @ Donaire or Mares?
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tliang1000 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,078 vCash: 90872	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? Moreno and Mares are both moving up to 122. 118 was filled with talented boxers and I respect Mares for wanting to fight Moreno who is a really good boxer even though he didn't have to.
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saul_ir34 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11,229 vCash: 675	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? Have you checked his resume? Other than he and Froch I cant think of anyone with a better recent resume. He fights the whos whos of his weight class and keeps calling out all the big names and actually fighting them. Who else in that weight class would have fought Moreno?
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lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,723 vCash: 330	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? He's done much more than rigo. Rigo v donaire would be amazing.
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Nonito Smoak Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington State, USA Posts: 9,322 vCash: 0	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? Anyone who had him top 10 at 122 before the Moreno fight was flat out crazy, and there were many. He still shouldn't be higher ranked there than Poon or Rigo. I think Mares barely scrapes by in all of his big fights. I scored the Darchinyan fight to Vic by 1 point, the first Agbeko fight to Mares by one point with horrible reffing and fouling which I believe clearly changed the outcome, and the same exact story with this Moreno fight, which I gave to Mares 114-112 with an awful point deduction, iffy KD, and horrible fouling by Mares. He's the dirtiest fighter in boxing at the moment as well which is no good. That said, he's in or very close to top 10 P4P.
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ROACH Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,219 vCash: 500	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? Mares took on Moreno who is a beast, and he whupped his ass. Who looked like the bigger fighter on fight night? Mares or Moreno? I thought Moreno looked bigger.
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Hermit BUM East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bumfuck, Egypt Posts: 22,756 vCash: 1000	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? Why? Cuz his promoter is doing his job?
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11-16-2012, 04:01 PM	#13
tliang1000 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,078 vCash: 90872	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? Mares foul a little too much for my taste too
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dranon Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,011 vCash: 2185	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? Mares is possibly the dirtiest fighter in boxing right now and IMO he is a cheater and deserves no credit for any of his tainted victories.The fact is I cant remember him ever winning one single fight over a decent opponent without blatanly fouling.
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11-16-2012, 05:13 PM	#15
Doc "Slick White Chocolate" East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The City Of Angels. Posts: 9,002 vCash: 1000	Re: Why is Mares getting any praise at 122? I hope mares vs terrazas is next, if not donaire.
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