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Old 11-15-2012, 07:18 PM   #196
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The Rahman that beat Lewis is better than any of Wlad's opponents
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:23 AM   #197
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What, slow news day is it?
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:50 AM   #198
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The Rahman that beat Lewis is better than any of Wlad's opponents
No he's not.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:55 AM   #199
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The Rahman that beat Lewis is better than any of Wlad's opponents



No. Lewis should've never lost against Rahman. But shit happens.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:16 AM   #200
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No. Lewis should've never lost against Rahman. But shit happens.
Yes. Agreed. Poor loss, down to a total lack of dedication.

That Rahman was good enough to beat a serious Corrie Sanders, and be competitive (was gipped really) against a half decent Tua as well.

So he was no scrub like some would have you believe.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:06 AM   #201
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The day LL retired there was suddenly no more good fighters . We got it .
There was - after all Vitali dragged Briggs up twelve years after Lewis sparked him and managed to go the distance. And of course Wlad ducked the awesomeness of the deadly dreadlocks which are like poison to Ukranians.

War Shannon "Asthma" Briggs.

And you seriously try and say this current crop is good as Lewis level of competition. When you dig up a contender that got sparked twelve years earlier then take your pick - either the division is crap or Vit is a cherry picker.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:48 AM   #202
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Wladimirs record is hardly deeper than Vitali, let alone Lennox.
Lennox's resume is mainly comprised of slower, orthodox sluggers and a couple all-arounders like old Holyfield.

Wlad's fought faster fighters, sluggers, slick defensive fighters, spoilers, and counterpunchers. He also fights southpaws, which Lennox didn't do. And, he's got nearly 20 more wins than Lennox.

more wins + wider range of styles defeated = deeper resume.

If you want to argue that Lennox has a better resume on the top end and is therefore better overall, that's a different argument. But Wlad's got him on depth.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:54 AM   #203
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Manny Steward: "Wladimir is more talented but Lennox has beaten the better fighters therefore he is more proven."
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:14 AM   #204
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:50 AM   #205
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There was - after all Vitali dragged Briggs up twelve years after Lewis sparked him and managed to go the distance. And of course Wlad ducked the awesomeness of the deadly dreadlocks which are like poison to Ukranians.

War Shannon "Asthma" Briggs.

And you seriously try and say this current crop is good as Lewis level of competition. When you dig up a contender that got sparked twelve years earlier then take your pick - either the division is crap or Vit is a cherry picker.
umm.. Vitaly was in his 40s when he fought Briggs. You're talking like he was prime and Briggs was old. Vitaly is older then him.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:54 AM   #206
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Fair statement. What would you consider him 13 years after that and with only 1 win over a top 10 fighter during that time?
in 90s when he was in his 20s he was a lineal champ and in 2000s when he was in his 30s he had a paper belt.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:16 PM   #207
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in 90s when he was in his 20s he was a lineal champ and in 2000s when he was in his 30s he had a paper belt.
That wasn't what I asked you, was it? Boy, you guys have a talent for avoiding questions!
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:20 PM   #208
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umm.. Vitaly was in his 40s when he fought Briggs. You're talking like he was prime and Briggs was old. Vitaly is older then him.
And your entirely missing the point. Tell me - how was Briggs better twelve years after Lewis sparked his arse in five rounds? What does fighting Briggs twelve years after getting sparked by Lewis say for the depth of the division?
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And your entirely missing the point. Tell me - how was Briggs better twelve years after Lewis sparked his arse in five rounds? What does fighting Briggs twelve years after getting sparked by Lewis say for the depth of the division?
The fight against Briggs has not much to do with the depth of the division. He was chosen because he was/is a marketeable slugger with some name behind, nothing more. That fight was about money, not talent.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:55 PM   #210
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Could you imagine someone like Mormeck, or Sosnowski getting a legitimate world title shot in Lewis's era?

You've got guys like Marco Huck who isnt even the best cruiserweight out there getting title shots.

And completely shot fighters like Rahman,Briggs etc getting shots.

The past prime version of Tyson that Lewis beat was still better than most of the fighters that are getting shots today.

Of the last few years lets say, THAT Tyson was better than

Mormeck
Sosnowski
Briggs(against Vitali)
Boswell
Thompson
Austin
Charr
Harrison


Theres a few more that I could add, but those ones are definates.


And people talk crap about Lewis fighting that Tyson!
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