who is the greatest of all time? vote. - Page 10

Nipple · 11-16-2012, 03:14 PM

As far as pure Boxers go, Tommy Hearns is up there. As in James Toney circa 90-93.

red cobra · 11-16-2012, 05:04 PM

I voted for The Man in the poll. That would be SRR, of course.

11-16-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by goat15

ali is in the poll, so feel free to vote for him.

Did just that

Hands of Iron · 11-16-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfisher3

i don't think fitzimmons is the best ever, or has the best resume ever, but if the question is who has the greatest p4p achievements then he and armstrong are top for me, i have had it in my head all day and i can't reach a final conclusion between armstrong's 3 belts at same time or fitz 3 including mw and hw

Pretty much this.

I'd go with Armstrong personally -- knocked off the top man in three divisions within a matter of 10 months, with several notable wins inbetween.

johnmaff36 · 11-17-2012, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by burt bienstock

Five in historical order:
Fitz
Langford
Greb
Benny Leonard
Ray Robinson
Hon.mentions : Dempsey, Louis, Pep, Ezzard Charles...

Dempsey gets an HM but Ali doesnt? Come off it now Burt

Theron · 11-17-2012, 01:58 AM

If you look at who he fought Greb wins this, his record is amazing

Robinson for ability and skills Langford close to Robinson aswell, and of course the old master Joe Gans his skill was unbelievable.

Hands of Iron · 11-17-2012, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by johnmaff36

Dempsey gets an HM but Ali doesnt? Come off it now Burt

How about the complete exclusion of Henry Armstrong.

tezel8764 · 11-17-2012, 02:50 AM

SRR:

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burt bienstock · 11-17-2012, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by johnmaff36

Dempsey gets an HM but Ali doesnt? Come off it now Burt

The question posed is best fighter P4P J. Did I include Jack Dempsey as my top six .??? No. So why chastise me ? I included Greb, Robinson, Benny Leonard [Robby's equal as a LW], Langford, Armstrong,and ole Fitz...
P4P a heavyweight as 215 pound Ali was, wasn't as good all around as a Sugar Ray Leonard ,who could do as a WW more than Ali because of his "sharper"
punching...If Clay/Ali was not charismatic as he was, he wouldn't be called
"the greatest HWT of alltime" IMO. A chap named Joe Louis has that distinction...Louis eviscerated his division for 12 years,leaving his opponents prone on the canvas...Ali did not do this, though Ali had better
opposition...Cheers...

burt bienstock · 11-17-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by johnmaff36

Dempsey gets an HM but Ali doesnt? Come off it now Burt

JM, I wasn't the poster that included "honorable mention "...Some other
poster !

Johnstown · 11-17-2012, 09:05 AM

put this in the general forum..and 1/3 will say ali..the other 2/3rd will bitch about either Pac or Mayweather not being on the list....maybe one or two will bitch about Roy Jones not being on it....

johnmaff36 · 11-17-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by burt bienstock

JM, I wasn't the poster that included "honorable mention "...Some other
poster !

Burt, its in post 4 by yourself mate

johnmaff36 · 11-17-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by burt bienstock

The question posed is best fighter P4P J. Did I include Jack Dempsey as my top six .??? No. So why chastise me ? I included Greb, Robinson, Benny Leonard [Robby's equal as a LW], Langford, Armstrong,and ole Fitz...
P4P a heavyweight as 215 pound Ali was, wasn't as good all around as a Sugar Ray Leonard ,who could do as a WW more than Ali because of his "sharper"
punching...If Clay/Ali was not charismatic as he was, he wouldn't be called
"the greatest HWT of alltime" IMO. A chap named Joe Louis has that distinction...Louis eviscerated his division for 12 years,leaving his opponents prone on the canvas...Ali did not do this, though Ali had better
opposition...Cheers...

You never mentioned Armstrong, although im sure it was just an easy oversight. Ive no beef with the fighters you picked, none whatsoever, but i do find it strange that you pick Dempsey as an HM (which you DID, just check your post) and omit Ali. Im not chastising you, just an honest observation my good man.

Unforgiven · 11-17-2012, 09:36 AM

Probably because Dempsey was better 'pound for pound', beating up much bigger men etc.

johnmaff36 · 11-17-2012, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Unforgiven

Probably because Dempsey was better 'pound for pound', beating up much bigger men etc.

maybe so. I personally wouldnt agree. I dont think many would but thats just my opinion, i may be wrong

View Poll Results: who achieved the most, pound for pound?
Ali	23	11.86%
Armstrong	9	4.64%
Charles	2	1.03%
Fitzsimmons	8	4.12%
Greb	30	15.46%
Langford	7	3.61%
Moore	0	0%
Pep	5	2.58%
Robinson	85	43.81%
Other	25	12.89%
Voters: 194. You may not vote on this poll

11-16-2012, 03:14 PM	#136
Nipple I hate my username ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,675 vCash: 500	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. As far as pure Boxers go, Tommy Hearns is up there. As in James Toney circa 90-93.
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11-16-2012, 05:04 PM	#137
red cobra Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 12,960 vCash: 1000	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. I voted for The Man in the poll. That would be SRR, of course.
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11-17-2012, 01:58 AM	#141
Theron Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,308 vCash: 773	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. If you look at who he fought Greb wins this, his record is amazing Robinson for ability and skills Langford close to Robinson aswell, and of course the old master Joe Gans his skill was unbelievable.
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Johnstown Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Johnstown PA Posts: 2,850 vCash: 500	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. put this in the general forum..and 1/3 will say ali..the other 2/3rd will bitch about either Pac or Mayweather not being on the list....maybe one or two will bitch about Roy Jones not being on it....
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11-17-2012, 09:36 AM	#149
Unforgiven Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,720 vCash: 1000	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. Probably because Dempsey was better 'pound for pound', beating up much bigger men etc.
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