Lennox Lewis: "Vitali paid off Kirk Johnson to cancel the fight with me"

[KidDynamite]

Truth be told they even wanted to get the Rahman rematch done quickly because Lewis had his sights set on retirement

Iron Mike said that he wanted to get a couple of more fights in before boxing Lewis but there was doubt that Lennox would wait

There were talks of Lewis retiring as early as Rahman II ... And im not saying this as a hardcore Lewis fan or anything but thats the truth

[JAB5239]

Originally Posted by box4life11

Vitali's been saying that for years and?

I don't see your point. My response was to the ridiculous claim "It's clear Lewis didn't want to retire when he did."

“I want to give him(Tyson) a good whipping and then after that it is a strong possibility I will retire. I want Tyson. I am pushing for him and want to get him before the end of the year."

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What is clear is that Lewis had been contemplating retirement for some time.

[Saku]

Originally Posted by WiDDoW_MaKeR

Lewis beat better fighters in your own biased opinion. Certainly not in mine.

So, Lewis was Undisputed without ever winning the WBO title, and having vacated the IBF and WBA titles to avoid his mandatory challengers, and went 1-1 against Rahman during his very short reign. So... while Lewis was Champ, we had Wlad holding the WBO, Byrd holding the IBF, and Ruiz holding the WBA and he split wins with Rahman.... That's undisputed... but Wlad holding every title except the WBC title isn't? Not only that... he has held those titles intact, and didn't vacate a single one of them, and hasn't been defeated since becoming Champ. Beyond that... the WBC title that Vitali holds was won against an opponent (Sam Peter) that Wlad already beat.

The WBC title means nothing. Wlad is undisputed, which is a useless term to begin with... in reality it means absolutely nothing. The titles mean nothing as well, unless they are held by the best in the division.

Lewis was the true Champ after his win against Holyfield until retirement, I agree. Wlad is also the true Champ, and has been ever since he beat Chris Byrd, who was longest standing Champ and #1 ranked heavyweight by ring magazine at the time. Especially considering the fact that Wlad beat the undefeated Sam Peter, who was considered the next champ of the division and the most dangerous man that Wlad could have possibly faced in order to get that title shot.

very good post Widdow!

[Phanekim]

lennox you trash talker you.

[jisi]

Lewis is absoult right.

But Lewis won.

[KidDynamite]

Lewis telling the truth has all of these klit worshippers raging

Lewis personally destroyed older klits face and inspired Samders to vanquish younger klit

[jisi]

Originally Posted by KidDynamite

Lewis telling the truth has all of these klit worshippers raging

Lewis personally destroyed older klits face and inspired Samders to vanquish younger klit

Yes. But it was good for Wlad because Wlad saw what happened and relalized that he had to change his training. He hired Emanuel Steward and becomes the No. 1 Heavyweight.

[Barry Smith]

Vitali is a steroid cheating bully who can't hack it when someone stands up to him.

[irishny]

Originally Posted by WiDDoW_MaKeR

Lewis beat better fighters in your own biased opinion. Certainly not in mine.

So, Lewis was Undisputed without ever winning the WBO title, and having vacated the IBF and WBA titles to avoid his mandatory challengers, and went 1-1 against Rahman during his very short reign. So... while Lewis was Champ, we had Wlad holding the WBO, Byrd holding the IBF, and Ruiz holding the WBA and he split wins with Rahman.... That's undisputed... but Wlad holding every title except the WBC title isn't? Not only that... he has held those titles intact, and didn't vacate a single one of them, and hasn't been defeated since becoming Champ. Beyond that... the WBC title that Vitali holds was won against an opponent (Sam Peter) that Wlad already beat.

The WBC title means nothing. Wlad is undisputed, which is a useless term to begin with... in reality it means absolutely nothing. The titles mean nothing as well, unless they are held by the best in the division.

Lewis was the true Champ after his win against Holyfield until retirement, I agree. Wlad is also the true Champ, and has been ever since he beat Chris Byrd, who was longest standing Champ and #1 ranked heavyweight by ring magazine at the time. Especially considering the fact that Wlad beat the undefeated Sam Peter, who was considered the next champ of the division and the most dangerous man that Wlad could have possibly faced in order to get that title shot.

The WBO belt?????
Are you kidding me???

Yeah you're right Lewis should have manned up and fought Herbie Hide...Its the fight the world wanted to see!

Wlad has fought some downright AWFUL competition as champion.
Lewis fought (at worst)good fighters.

Some of whom are still hanging around the heavyweight scene,its so weak!

Holyfield
Tua
Grant
Botha
Rahman(x2)
Tyson(even the old version still massacres the likes of Mormeck and Castillo)
Vitali.

Whereas Wlad has fought the likes of
Old Rahman
Castillo
Mormeck.

Its not all his fault, its just the modern division is brutal.

Its why guys like Grant, Botha, Rahman,Briggs can still compete near world class level right up until their late 30s,early 40s. Even Ray Austin was getting near world titles in his late 30s and he was NEVER anything special. When Tua came back and hammered Cameron,we had people on this site wanting him to get in with the Klitschkos.

These guys were getting beaten by Lewis,when they were prime.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Originally Posted by irishny

The WBO belt?????
Are you kidding me???

Yeah you're right Lewis should have manned up and fought Herbie Hide...Its the fight the world wanted to see!

Wlad has fought some downright AWFUL competition as champion.
Lewis fought (at worst)good fighters.

Some of whom are still hanging around the heavyweight scene,its so weak!

Holyfield
Tua
Grant
Botha
Rahman(x2)
Tyson(even the old version still massacres the likes of Mormeck and Castillo)
Vitali.

Whereas Wlad has fought the likes of
Old Rahman
Castillo
Mormeck.

Its not all his fault, its just the modern division is brutal.

Its why guys like Grant, Botha, Rahman,Briggs can still compete near world class level right up until their late 30s,early 40s. Even Ray Austin was getting near world titles in his late 30s and he was NEVER anything special. When Tua came back and hammered Cameron,we had people on this site wanting him to get in with the Klitschkos.

These guys were getting beaten by Lewis,when they were prime.

Honestly... that's probably the worst post that I have ever read on this forum. Doesn't even deserve a response. It's just completely wrong on so many different levels.

[MaliBua]

Originally Posted by WiDDoW_MaKeR

Honestly... that's probably the worst post that I have ever read on this forum. Doesn't even deserve a response. It's just completely wrong on so many different levels.

I was actually anxious on waiting you to reply on that and OWN irishny big time.

That post what Irisny made was truely horrible and make no sense what so ever..

[knockout artist]

Originally Posted by dyna

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PC: You were handling Roy Jones when he captured the heavyweight title. I understand at one point he was very serious about fighting Lewis, Holyfield or Tyson. How close where those fights to being a reality?

MM: When he won the heavyweight championship of the world, he was the king of the mountain. Once we won the heavyweight title, he was the man. It was the ultimate goal. He told me, "Let's go get Lennox Lewis." Lennox Lewis accepted $25 million to fight Roy Jones Jr., but he had one obstacle in front of him and that was HBO had to put him in there against Klitschko. Keep in mind, Klitschko was supposed to fight the kid from Canada [Kirk Johnson]. The kid from Canada pulled out, so HBO was stuck with egg on their face and they needed someone to fulfill that position. Well, Lennox Lewis said, "No man, I'm not going to fight him for that kind of money when next year, ya'll are going to have to pay me a great deal of money. I'll fight him next year." But when I put $25 million on the table, he said, "Let's fight Klitschko now!" Now HBO should have sent me a letter or a check or anything else because I saved them. And Lennox Lewis went in there and he won the fight, but he was embarrassed at how he won the fight. He didn't do as good as he wanted to do, so he retired. So that fight went out of the window.

Klitschko might have paid off Kirk but the reason why Lewis fought Vitali was because of RJJ his manager.

And now comes my joke:It wasn't Vitali who made Lewis retire, Lewis didn't want to fight Roy Jones anymore.

No-one can seriously believe that Jones ever wanted anything to do with Lewis

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Originally Posted by MaliBua

I was actually anxious on waiting you to reply on that and OWN irishny big time.

That post what Irisny made was truely horrible and make no sense what so ever..

Alright... just for you...

[BadDog]

Originally Posted by KidDynamite

Truth be told they even wanted to get the Rahman rematch done quickly because Lewis had his sights set on retirement

Iron Mike said that he wanted to get a couple of more fights in before boxing Lewis but there was doubt that Lennox would wait

There were talks of Lewis retiring as early as Rahman II ... And im not saying this as a hardcore Lewis fan or anything but thats the truth

stop bullshiting, you are an idiot. Before the Vitaly fight Lewis never wanted to retire. He was planning to rematch Tyson, fight Kirk Johnson and fight RJJ. There are Lewis interviews posted on this board where he talks about his plans. Lewis' last fight was at 37 which is pretty young at this day and age. Same age as Wladimir right now. Everything you write here are just a bunch of lies and ignorant statements. When somebody catches you and exposes you, you never even respond and just keep on posting bullshit.

[grouche]

Originally Posted by FelixTheGreat

Good job irishny.

I can no longer do my part on utterly stomping on these aids infested Klittards on ESB due to constant ban.

But I'm slowly but surely rooting out these diseased fucks on the scene now and making sure everyone there know Lewis is the daddy of Vitali and would have KOED any version of Wlad.

Fucking Klittards have the audacity to even compare K2 to Lewis.

I will favor Prime Golota of the Bowe fights to beat every single fighter on both robot's entire resume of wins.


(the same Golota who was brutally raped by Lewis in like 30 seconds and left quivering on the ground)

Bitter, angry brittard