Ali v Shavers

fg2227 · 11-17-2012, 02:24 PM

What are your opinions on Ali's performanc in this on? I love the 15 th round cracking round.

KidDynamite · 11-17-2012, 02:27 PM

Time to retire for Ali

Thread Stealer · 11-17-2012, 02:35 PM

I read an interview where Shavers said he agreed with the decision and that Ali won.

I can't find 8 rounds to give to Ali, his pitter-patter flurries didn't impress me.

Ali was badly faded by 1977, but surely still had his chin and toughness here. He took some bombs.

11-17-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fg2227

What are your opinions on Ali's performanc in this on? I love the 15 th round cracking round.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Yi-7YdmtU[/ame]

11-17-2012, 06:09 PM

Even a way past prime Ali was hard to hit. But Ali also had a great chin - always did have, and Shavers landed plenty flush, but couldn't put Ali away.

timmers612 · 11-17-2012, 07:18 PM

Would Earnie have put Ali down and away had he stormed into him after hurting him badly in the 2nd round? I think so, Ali took the rest of the round to get his strenth back, he was in a very wobbly state there after that right hand.

D9Garrard · 11-17-2012, 08:44 PM

I think taking this fight was testimony to Ali's courage and self-confidence and the result was testimony to his heart and toughness. I'm shocked he signed for the fight.

11-17-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by D9Garrard

I think taking this fight was testimony to Ali's courage and self-confidence and the result was testimony to his heart and toughness. I'm shocked he signed for the fight.

Likewise. But Ali had total belief in himself.

Vince Voltage · 11-17-2012, 10:28 PM

Shavers won it. The fact that Earnie says he didn't win is because he, like Norton, Foreman, and many others, have become that ugliest of ESB words -"nuthuggers"- of Muhammad Ali

11-17-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince Voltage

Shavers won it. The fact that Earnie says he didn't win is because he, like Norton, Foreman, and many others, have become that ugliest of ESB words -"nuthuggers"- of Muhammad Ali

So you are a mind reader as well as anti Ali troll

Vince Voltage · 11-17-2012, 11:41 PM

Yes. And I make no apologies, Spider Rico.

Colonel Sanders · 11-17-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince Voltage

Shavers won it. The fact that Earnie says he didn't win is because he, like Norton, Foreman, and many others, have become that ugliest of ESB words -"nuthuggers"- of Muhammad Ali

Carl Williams did the same after ''losing'' to Holmes. The truth said he didn't think he had done enough to win.

Funny isn't it.

And I also think Shavers beat Ali.

Boxed Ears · 11-18-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Thread Stealer

I read an interview where Shavers said he agreed with the decision and that Ali won.

I can't find 8 rounds to give to Ali, his pitter-patter flurries didn't impress me.

Ali was badly faded by 1977, but surely still had his chin and toughness here. He took some bombs.

I think he said it in the Facing Ali doc too, didn't he?

11-18-2012, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince Voltage

Yes. And I make no apologies, Spider Rico.

Not seeking an apology. Just laughing at the futility of what you do

HOUDINI · 11-18-2012, 12:49 AM

More revisionism here. The truth is that the fight was televised live on national tv and the judges scorecards were revealed after every round to the home audience. Shavers gave Ali a good fight but there were no cries of a bad decision after this bout. Shavers rocked Ali in several rounds but did little doing his best to conserve himself. He let it all hang out in the last 3 rounds but by that time Ali already had 8 rounds in his pocket. I was not an Ali fan back in 1977 but I found no issues with the scoring....Shavers just did not do enough in many of the first 12 rounds.

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fg2227 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,462 vCash: 1000	Ali v Shavers What are your opinions on Ali's performanc in this on? I love the 15 th round cracking round.
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KidDynamite Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,394 vCash: 500	Re: Ali v Shavers Time to retire for Ali
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Thread Stealer P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 17,103 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali v Shavers I read an interview where Shavers said he agreed with the decision and that Ali won. I can't find 8 rounds to give to Ali, his pitter-patter flurries didn't impress me. Ali was badly faded by 1977, but surely still had his chin and toughness here. He took some bombs.
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The Spider Guest Posts: n/a vCash:	Re: Ali v Shavers Even a way past prime Ali was hard to hit. But Ali also had a great chin - always did have, and Shavers landed plenty flush, but couldn't put Ali away.
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timmers612 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 786 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali v Shavers Would Earnie have put Ali down and away had he stormed into him after hurting him badly in the 2nd round? I think so, Ali took the rest of the round to get his strenth back, he was in a very wobbly state there after that right hand.
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D9Garrard Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 216 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali v Shavers I think taking this fight was testimony to Ali's courage and self-confidence and the result was testimony to his heart and toughness. I'm shocked he signed for the fight.
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11-17-2012, 10:28 PM	#9
Vince Voltage Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 888 vCash: 500	Re: Ali v Shavers Shavers won it. The fact that Earnie says he didn't win is because he, like Norton, Foreman, and many others, have become that ugliest of ESB words -"nuthuggers"- of Muhammad Ali
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Vince Voltage Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 888 vCash: 500	Re: Ali v Shavers Yes. And I make no apologies, Spider Rico.
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11-18-2012, 12:49 AM	#15
HOUDINI Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 662 vCash: 500	Re: Ali v Shavers More revisionism here. The truth is that the fight was televised live on national tv and the judges scorecards were revealed after every round to the home audience. Shavers gave Ali a good fight but there were no cries of a bad decision after this bout. Shavers rocked Ali in several rounds but did little doing his best to conserve himself. He let it all hang out in the last 3 rounds but by that time Ali already had 8 rounds in his pocket. I was not an Ali fan back in 1977 but I found no issues with the scoring....Shavers just did not do enough in many of the first 12 rounds.
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