I Dont think bellews the fighter his fans on ESB talk him up to be - Page 2

The Peteman · 11-18-2012, 03:59 AM

Best thing that happened to Bellew was the cut. Gave him an excuse.

thewinfella · 11-18-2012, 04:05 AM

More evidence that Tony isnt a LHW, he's a CW in a LHW body

He could be much faster, stronger with better power and out put at CW of that there is no doubt, he's a massive lad

Bellew's activity or lack of it is the tell tale sign his body is not performing properly at that weight, im from Liverpool myself and im right behind Tony Bellew, I know as well as most informed fight fans from the city the type of work the man does in the gym, he should be performing better than he does, he's a freakishly fit individual but he's killing himself at the weight

BIGMANG · 11-18-2012, 04:44 AM

Is an exciting fighter and gives it his all every time, but he clearly needs to do a lot of work still to compete at the elite level.

UndisputedUK · 11-18-2012, 05:11 AM

Having watched the fight......
The opponent was tough, he went down from a couple of early top of the head shots perhaps with off balance issues. This built up the points for Bellew. Tony was caught with some very decent counter punches, the counter left opened that wicked cut. It was a very very bad cut, the cut's man did a top drawer job on that. The other guy did not have much of an offense. The best way to win a fight with a cut that bad, was to box and stay away, win on points. Bellew did this. It was a decent fight, he picked up a title, but also a bad cut. It may open the door to bigger fights because some of the better fighters may see him as an easier opponent now.
It was Bellews fight to lose, going for a stoppage would have seen him risk more counters. I'm not sure if Tony was tight at the weight, but he did the 12 rounds ok.

IRONSENSE2002 · 11-18-2012, 05:13 AM

i don't see anything in him with justifies people claiming he'd take tyson fury apart or he's the ''most technical fighter on these shores'' and these are the things his fans have stated not my words.

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Originally Posted by BIGMANG

Is an exciting fighter and gives it his all every time, but he clearly needs to do a lot of work still to compete at the elite level.

You think the mckenzie rematch, miranda fight and last nights fight were exciting fights

he throws wide punches and misses with allot of his work. its amateurish some of the stuff he gets away with.

Bill C84 · 11-18-2012, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by IRONSENSE2002

i don't see anything in him with justifies people claiming he'd take tyson fury apart or he's the ''most technical fighter on these shores'' and these are the things his fans have stated not my words.

You think the mckenzie rematch, miranda fight and last nights fight were exciting fights

he throws wide punches and misses with allot of his work. its amateurish some of the stuff he gets away with.

Your'e a midwife, therefore I don't expect any sense from you on the subject of Boxing, Florence..

Earl-hickey · 11-18-2012, 05:37 AM

I see Bellew as strong European level along with cleverly

Can't see a way for them to beat the Chad Dawsons of this world though, Dawson isn't amazing but you need a bit more about you than Clev and Bellew have if i'm being honest

Bill C84 · 11-18-2012, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Earl-hickey

I see Bellew as strong European level along with cleverly

Can't see a way for them to beat the Chad Dawsons of this world though, Dawson isn't amazing but you need a bit more about you than Clev and Bellew have if i'm being honest

I think he will pick up a world title at some point, I don't think the Chad Dawson route is the way to go, if all he wanted to do is pick up a strap but fair play to him, he's going after the number 1 in the division, the old skool route that deserves praise in itself.

byron87 · 11-18-2012, 06:24 AM

Did he drop to his knees again after he beat him? Or shout "What whaat" to the crowd.

Bill C84 · 11-18-2012, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by byron87

Did he drop to his knees again after he beat him? Or shout "What whaat" to the crowd.

Did you watch the fight?

Its me you see · 11-18-2012, 06:37 AM

IRONSENSE is the only 1 on esb with a M.D.

(overseeing and planning his daily activities)

Could you imagine coming on esb and seeing your own doctor writing the garbage that comes out of his mouth

IRONSENSE2002 · 11-18-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Its me you see

IRONSENSE is the only 1 on esb with a M.D.

(overseeing and planning his daily activities)

Could you imagine coming on esb and seeing your own doctor writing the garbage that comes out of his mouth

You are right. i shouldn't be spouting jargon. Its just very irritating that on the brit forum, Bellew has such a big following and people describe him as fan friendly when in at least 3 of his fights he's looked utterly boring. I just don't think he's the fighter people talk him up to be. and when you read things like he's the best technical boxer in the UK, i find statements like this absolutely mind boggling.

pikecubic · 11-18-2012, 07:45 AM

You are right that some people overrate him as is the case with many up and coming british boxers who are largely untested against world class competition. However you first comment before it was edited was complete bollocks. Tony went in there and IMO would have stopped him had it not been for the gash. What did you expect him to do once he got the cut stand toe to toe with Bolonti who as limited as he clearly was is still a puncher? Bellew showed he can change his game plan during a fight when needed and showed maturity and good boxing ability. I agree that he is not yet ready for Dawson but I believe he is constantly improving fighter that has the potential to be a world champ.

Bill C84 · 11-18-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pikecubic

You are right that some people overrate him as is the case with many up and coming british boxers who are largely untested against world class competition. However you first comment before it was edited was complete bollocks. Tony went in there and IMO would have stopped him had it not been for the gash. What did you expect him to do once he got the cut stand toe to toe with Bolonti who as limited as he clearly was is still a puncher? Bellew showed he can change his game plan during a fight when needed and showed maturity and good boxing ability. I agree that he is not yet ready for Dawson but I believe he is constantly improving fighter that has the potential to be a world champ.

For a first ever post, it isn't a bad one mate.

pikecubic · 11-18-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill C84

For a first ever post, it isn't a bad one mate.

Cheers, I was gonna call him a c*nt and threaten to ko him but thought id go for the more diplomatic route

11-18-2012, 03:59 AM	#16
The Peteman sterilise the poor Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 43 vCash: 1000	Re: most fighters at 175 would smash bellew a new arse hole Best thing that happened to Bellew was the cut. Gave him an excuse.
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11-18-2012, 04:05 AM	#17
thewinfella The Golden Boy East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 7,220 vCash: 75	Re: most fighters at 175 would smash bellew a new arse hole More evidence that Tony isnt a LHW, he's a CW in a LHW body He could be much faster, stronger with better power and out put at CW of that there is no doubt, he's a massive lad Bellew's activity or lack of it is the tell tale sign his body is not performing properly at that weight, im from Liverpool myself and im right behind Tony Bellew, I know as well as most informed fight fans from the city the type of work the man does in the gym, he should be performing better than he does, he's a freakishly fit individual but he's killing himself at the weight
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11-18-2012, 04:44 AM	#18
BIGMANG newbie Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 22 vCash: 500	Re: most fighters at 175 would smash bellew a new arse hole Is an exciting fighter and gives it his all every time, but he clearly needs to do a lot of work still to compete at the elite level.
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11-18-2012, 05:11 AM	#19
UndisputedUK Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,916 vCash: 1000	Re: most fighters at 175 would smash bellew a new arse hole Having watched the fight...... The opponent was tough, he went down from a couple of early top of the head shots perhaps with off balance issues. This built up the points for Bellew. Tony was caught with some very decent counter punches, the counter left opened that wicked cut. It was a very very bad cut, the cut's man did a top drawer job on that. The other guy did not have much of an offense. The best way to win a fight with a cut that bad, was to box and stay away, win on points. Bellew did this. It was a decent fight, he picked up a title, but also a bad cut. It may open the door to bigger fights because some of the better fighters may see him as an easier opponent now. It was Bellews fight to lose, going for a stoppage would have seen him risk more counters. I'm not sure if Tony was tight at the weight, but he did the 12 rounds ok.
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11-18-2012, 05:37 AM	#22
Earl-hickey Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 10,024 vCash: 765	Re: most fighters at 175 would smash bellew a new arse hole I see Bellew as strong European level along with cleverly Can't see a way for them to beat the Chad Dawsons of this world though, Dawson isn't amazing but you need a bit more about you than Clev and Bellew have if i'm being honest
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11-18-2012, 06:24 AM	#24
byron87 Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North London. Posts: 451 vCash: 0	Re: most fighters at 175 would smash bellew a new arse hole Did he drop to his knees again after he beat him? Or shout "What whaat" to the crowd.
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11-18-2012, 06:37 AM	#26
Its me you see Journeyman Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 88 vCash: 500	Re: most fighters at 175 would smash bellew a new arse hole IRONSENSE is the only 1 on esb with a M.D. (overseeing and planning his daily activities) Could you imagine coming on esb and seeing your own doctor writing the garbage that comes out of his mouth
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11-18-2012, 07:45 AM	#28
pikecubic Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Liverpool Posts: 447 vCash: 500	Re: I Dont think bellews the fighter his fans on ESB talk him up to be You are right that some people overrate him as is the case with many up and coming british boxers who are largely untested against world class competition. However you first comment before it was edited was complete bollocks. Tony went in there and IMO would have stopped him had it not been for the gash. What did you expect him to do once he got the cut stand toe to toe with Bolonti who as limited as he clearly was is still a puncher? Bellew showed he can change his game plan during a fight when needed and showed maturity and good boxing ability. I agree that he is not yet ready for Dawson but I believe he is constantly improving fighter that has the potential to be a world champ.
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