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Old 11-17-2012, 08:53 PM   #61
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no. lewis was duckin the best boxers thats why he kept his worthless belt. He decided to fight old, shot holyfield (after his wars with guys like qawi, foreman, bowe, tyson) and still couldnt clearly beat him. Tyson was fighting as a pro since like 1985? Lol, lewis said that the most defining win of his career is win over mike in year 2002 lol.
Yes of course, it's not like Lewis was still an amateur in 1985 and won Olympic gold in 1988 is it? Or that Tyson was already past his prime and in prison up until 1995, or that 'shot' Holyfield beat the same Rahman that Vitali avoided 4 times is it? It was also part of Lewis' plan to duck Bowe by getting him to pretend he was ducking Lewis by publically trashing his belt. I could also argue that Lewis faced Tyson in his 43rd fight, while Wlad was getting knocked the **** out by a fat golfer in his 42nd? Of course, I forget, Wlad was still green, so that must mean Lewis was still green going in against an ATG right? ****ing spastic.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:01 PM   #62
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Yes of course, it's not like Lewis was still an amateur in 1985 and won Olympic gold in 1988 is it? Or that Tyson was already past his prime and in prison up until 1995, or that 'shot' Holyfield beat the same Rahman that Vitali avoided 4 times is it? It was also part of Lewis' plan to duck Bowe by getting him to pretend he was ducking Lewis by publically trashing his belt. I could also argue that Lewis faced Tyson in his 43rd fight, while Wlad was getting knocked the **** out by a fat golfer in his 42nd? Of course, I forget, Wlad was still green, so that must mean Lewis was still green going in against an ATG right? ****ing spastic.
Why you bring the klitchkos in this thread? I know they ****ed most of your british HW's and made lenny look like a scared girl but this thread isn't about the klitschkos. I understand that the times are hard since the british HW hope was deepthroating wladimir for 12 rounds when the moronic brits actually thought he stands a chance against wlad. Lets focus on lenny- he said that his best win is 2002 version of tyson, the tyson that got koed by bums like williams or mcbride not long after. Wlad's wins over ibragimov or chagaev are much more impressive.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:20 PM   #63
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Lewis was a H2H beast. I think only Ali definitively beats him on his best night. Tyson and Holmes are 50/50 fights.
Joe louis kicks his ass all day
hand speed would be to much. He would land on the chin and hurt lewis. Soon as he was hurt thats alllllll she wrote. Holmes had faster hands and feet but with holmes u always got a chance since he could be knocked down. Tyson is a toss up an would be great while it lasted, someone goes to sleep in this fight. Ali dances an whips his ass all night, mid rounds k.o imo. Wlad doesnt have the chin but maybe the size? Naw **** that lewis wins lol. I think frazier may have been to small to win but that left always gives him a chance. Foreman has a good chance kuz he can take a punch but i think he might be to slow. Bowe... Theres a reason bowe threw the belt in the trash lol.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:29 PM   #64
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no. lewis was duckin the best boxers thats why he kept his worthless belt. He decided to fight old, shot holyfield (after his wars with guys like qawi, foreman, bowe, tyson) and still couldnt clearly beat him. Tyson was fighting as a pro since like 1985? Lol, lewis said that the most defining win of his career is win over mike in year 2002 lol.
Name me one fighter Lennox Lewis ducked?????????
Dont say Vitali as a barely 80% ready Lennox kicked his ass in 6. No one wanted to fight Lewis
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:03 PM   #65
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Did he get the same shot when he fought Tyson and grant ?
imho Golota had a severe anxiety condition, and it was 50/50 whether he was going to have an attack going into the ring in any fight. Against very dangerous fighters those chances increased. I'm pretty sure that's why he did what he did vs. Bowe as well, when those things hit you just want to be OUT OF THERE by any means necessary.

Shame. He was a hell of a talent.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:14 PM   #66
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Name me one fighter Lennox Lewis ducked?????????
Dont say Vitali as a barely 80% ready Lennox kicked his ass in 6. No one wanted to fight Lewis
John Ruiz and Chris Byrd

Except I don't know if you could call those "ducks"
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:19 PM   #67
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Dream on.
He had no chin.
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If you remember Lennox didn't exacly have a granite chin so there are some fighters who could beat him on his best night
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:22 AM   #69
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Tell me, how is it that the most dominant forces in the hw division are often the people who outweigh most of their opponents.
Louis, Ali, Lewis, Wlad, Holmes, foreman, Vitali, Liston, even frazier.

Tyson only outweighted 48% of his opponents, but prime Tyson up to spinks outweighted most of his opponents.
When Tyson was the dominant force in the division he was more often than not the heavier guy.
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no. lewis was duckin the best boxers thats why he kept his worthless belt. He decided to fight old, shot holyfield (after his wars with guys like qawi, foreman, bowe, tyson) and still couldnt clearly beat him. Tyson was fighting as a pro since like 1985? Lol, lewis said that the most defining win of his career is win over mike in year 2002 lol.
Lewis didn't care so much about belts, a guy like Wlad loves them but Lewis didn't fight Ruiz for example.
Lewis sparred with Ruiz once and didn't want to fight him ever again because it would be a very ugly fight.
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:26 AM   #71
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Dream on.
He had no chin.
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If you remember Lennox didn't exacly have a granite chin so there are some fighters who could beat him on his best night
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