ward v cleverly possible fight of the future.

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Originally Posted by bailey

Ward would no way fight a prime fighter like Cleverly.

What top undefeated fighters has Ward fought?

Cleverly has stamina, workrate and a chin. Ward would not want to go near that guy. Remember Ward didnt want to fight Bute when Bute looked the business

Well said brother.

Especially if it involves stepping foot out of jokeland

[KERRIGAN]

Ward would destroy Not So Clever-ly, it's irrefutable.

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Originally Posted by KERRIGAN

Ward would destroy Not So Clever-ly, it's irrefutable.

Your vcash total is ****ing abysmal.

That is irrefutable.

Cleverly is the real deal. Coming at ya ward.

But first lets destroy bhop and then, the carbon copy waddake is next.

[FilipMNE]

Originally Posted by bailey

Ward would no way fight a prime fighter like Cleverly.

What top undefeated fighters has Ward fought?

Cleverly has stamina, workrate and a chin. Ward would not want to go near that guy. Remember Ward didnt want to fight Bute when Bute looked the business

Who did Cleverly beat to be considered TOP fighter?? Beating male nurse doesnt make you top fighter until he steps up he is nothing but a good prospect miles behind Ward in every aspect!!!

[FilipMNE]

Originally Posted by bailey

Dont be too shocked if Ward losses first, he hasnt fought one top undefeated fighter or beaten one top prime fighter. Cleverly has a couple of top 10 names on his resume already who unlike the ones on Wards record are prime, oh and Cleverly took their 0s, something else Ward hasnt done

Beating undefeated bum is better than beating champion with defeat it seems

[Talivar]

If Ward goes to 175 should he then be forced to travel to wales?. Becomes champions dont have to travel ect.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

It was implied. You dont fool me, or anybody else here.

You highlighted my post dummy.
You made a comment and are now having to back track

[bailey]

Originally Posted by FilipMNE

Who did Cleverly beat to be considered TOP fighter?? Beating male nurse doesnt make you top fighter until he steps up he is nothing but a good prospect miles behind Ward in every aspect!!!

Cleverly beat undefeated Murat, who had beaten former champ Campillo, who many felt was unlucky against Cloud. Cleverly took that 0 there.
Cleverly also beat undefeated Bellew, now the WBC LHW silver champ, who beat Miranda who many claim had worked Dawson over before his fight with Ward. That was another 0 that Nathan took. Both current top 10 LHWs.
Tell me which 0s did Ward take off top undefeated fighters?

[bailey]

Originally Posted by timeout

Well said brother.

Especially if it involves stepping foot out of jokeland

Thanks champ.
Its fair to say that we call it as it is

[Fellonblackdays]

Andre Ward fight a primed fighter and going up in weight, not going to happen.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by bailey

Cleverly beat undefeated Murat, who had beaten former champ Campillo, who many felt was unlucky against Cloud. Cleverly took that 0 there.
Cleverly also beat undefeated Bellew, now the WBC LHW silver champ, who beat Miranda who many claim had worked Dawson over before his fight with Ward. That was another 0 that Nathan took. Both current top 10 LHWs.
Tell me which 0s did Ward take off top undefeated fighters?

To defeat an undefeated nobody is better than beating a top level fighter with a previous loss, is that what you're selling?

Mayweather, Hearns , Lewis, Cotto, Pacquiao never beat any top level undefeated fighters. Does that make them lesser champions?
Ross Purity took the "o" from Wladimir Klitschko, does that make him an all time great HW?
Hopkins zero was taken from him in his very first fight.
Your argument is a gimmick. You dont know where you are.

[knockout artist]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Because it was Ward who called out Dawson to fight at SMW didn't he? You like to make up your own facts you petulant little boy.

When did I say that? What did I make up? Ward's team refused a catchweight, and refused to move up, hence they drained Dawson down to 168 - it is what it is. Now I'm just asking, would Ward step up to 175 to face Clev? Because he wouldn't do that to face Dawson

[knockout artist]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

To defeat an undefeated nobody is better than beating a top level fighter with a previous loss, is that what you're selling?

Mayweather, Hearns , Lewis, Cotto, Pacquiao never beat any top level undefeated fighters. Does that make them lesser champions?
Ross Purity took the "o" from Wladimir Klitschko, does that make him an all time great HW?
Hopkins zero was taken from him in his very first fight.
Your argument is a gimmick. You dont know where you are.

Mayweather - Beat undefeated Diego Coralles

Hearns - Beat undefeated Virgil Hill

Lennox Lewis - beat highly rated and undefeated Michael Grant

Pacquiao - got robbed against Bradley

Cotto - beat undefeated Malignaggi, Foreman and Quintana - all have been champs

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by knockout artist

When did I say that? What did I make up? Ward's team refused a catchweight, and refused to move up, hence they drained Dawson down to 168 - it is what it is. Now I'm just asking, would Ward step up to 175 to face Clev? Because he wouldn't do that to face Dawson

Dawson said on live tv he could make the weight. Ward didn't make Dawson do anything. He accepted the challenge put to him, end of story.
Ward has no reason to fear Clev. Clev might beat Dawson, Ward is a different level.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by knockout artist

Mayweather - Beat undefeated Diego Coralles

Hearns - Beat undefeated Virgil Hill

Lennox Lewis - beat highly rated and undefeated Michael Grant

Pacquiao - got robbed against Bradley

Cotto - beat undefeated Malignaggi, Foreman and Quintana - all have been champs

They are not great fighters.
Being a former champ means nothing. Ottke held the belts for donkeys years.