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Old 11-18-2012, 01:35 PM   #16
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That doesn't mean he cant have a second bite of the cherry. If Froch continues to win and if he beats Kessler then nobody in the world will be able to write him off as an unworthy challenger to Ward.

Ward-logic, the logic that states that if if a fighter gets dominated in one fight he can never fight that opponent again, is ludicrous. If that was the reality of things then Sugar Ray Robinson would never have rematched Randy Turpin and to this day he'd be considered second best to Turpin. Becuase Robinson got that second chance he redeemed himself and is still above Turpin in pretty much every all time list. Holyfield, similarly, would never have had his rematches with Moorer or Bowe and would never have been considered one of the best Heavyweights of his era. Ali wouldn't have rematched Fraizer. Etc, etc.

Froch can earn a rematch with Ward if he keeps up his winning ways, especially if he beats Kessler.
Please don't mention Ali to support your logic regarding giving out rematches. Why didn't he rematch Foreman then?
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:37 PM   #17
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Froch has improved a lot...Ward could lose their rematch!
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:41 PM   #18
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Froch is the same fighter he's always been. Ward just didn't stand right in front of Froch in Froch's range and let Froch throw punches with no head movement.

This is why you can't talk boxing on this site because its just a bunch of fan boys that DKSAB.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:43 PM   #19
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Froch is the same fighter he's always been. Ward just didn't stand right in front of Froch in Froch's range and let Froch throw punches with no head movement.

This is why you can't talk boxing on this site because its just a bunch of fan boys that DKSAB.


Ward is just a lot better then Froch in every aspect.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:44 PM   #20
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Please don't mention Ali to support your logic regarding giving out rematches. Why didn't he rematch Foreman then?
I dont know. Maybe because Ali was getting old and didn't want the challenge of the younger, stronger Foreman. Maybe Ali didn't want Foreman, maybe he was afraid of him. Who can say? Certainly not me.

But Ali not giving Foreman a rematch doesn't change the fact that Foreman deserved one and never got his shot at redemption, that it wasn't right that Foreman never got that second shot at Ali.

Which backs up my point that arguing that there's "no point" in Ward fighting Froch or Kessler again because of the way his first fights against them went is a nothing argument, a poor excuse, and unsustainable should Froch and Kessler continue to win and earn a rematch.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:51 PM   #21
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I dont know. Maybe because Ali was getting old and didn't want the challenge of the younger, stronger Foreman. Maybe Ali didn't want Foreman, maybe he was afraid of him. Who can say? Certainly not me.

But Ali not giving Foreman a rematch doesn't change the fact that Foreman deserved one and never got his shot at redemption, that it wasn't right that Foreman never got that second shot at Ali.

Which backs up my point that arguing that there's "no point" in Ward fighting Froch or Kessler again because of the way his first fights against them went is a nothing argument, a poor excuse, and unsustainable should Froch and Kessler continue to win and earn a rematch.
Foreman was clearly beating Ali but gassed out. Do you think he would do the same in the rematch? Certainly not, and Ali knew that and ducked the rematch. Just like Ward won't be giving Froch his rematch as he is likely to be stopping off at the hospital after the fight!
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:58 PM   #22
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Foreman was clearly beating Ali but gassed out. Do you think he would do the same in the rematch? Certainly not, and Ali knew that and ducked the rematch. Just like Ward won't be giving Froch his rematch as he is likely to be stopping off at the hospital after the fight!
Ali won nearly every round in his fight with Foreman, What crack are you smoking bro?
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:01 PM   #23
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What part of "ward won with a broken hand" do you not understand
What part of "Ward is the most boring fighter in the world of the last 60 years" do YOU not understand?

As effective and skillfull as he is, he is boring as ****, awful to watch and nobody really gives a shit about him. It doesn't matter that he outboxed Froch, nobody gives a shit, everybody wants to see Carl Froch and nobody goes out of their way to see Ward because he couldn't attract flies to dogshit because he is absolutely unwatchable.

Carl Froch can excite a full house on either side of the Atlantic, and continues to do so, Ward is left on the sidelines making no money, and with nobody worthwhile to fight but weight drained Light heavyweights from the worst division in years. Ward has nowhere to go. He is irrelevant. Nobody cares when he is fighting next. But Carl Froch is packing houses and putting on shows. So Ward can say what he likes the bottom line is he boring as **** and fans don't give a shit about seeing him.

AND he ducked Dirrell and Bute
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:05 PM   #24
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Between the Kessler and Froch fans, this is the first time I think I've seen one fighter thoroughly dominate two fighters, and then be told, less than two years after, that he can't beat either guy.

Utter madness.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:09 PM   #25
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Between the Kessler and Froch fans, this is the first time I think I've seen one fighter thoroughly dominate two fighters, and then be told, less than two years after, that he can't beat either guy.

Utter madness.
I dont think I've ever said that Ward can't beat Kessler or Froch now. All I've said was that I dont agree with people saying that rematches between them would be pointless.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:16 PM   #26
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What part of "Ward is the most boring fighter in the world of the last 60 years" do YOU not understand?

As effective and skillfull as he is, he is boring as ****, awful to watch and nobody really gives a shit about him. It doesn't matter that he outboxed Froch, nobody gives a shit, everybody wants to see Carl Froch and nobody goes out of their way to see Ward because he couldn't attract flies to dogshit because he is absolutely unwatchable.

Carl Froch can excite a full house on either side of the Atlantic, and continues to do so, Ward is left on the sidelines making no money, and with nobody worthwhile to fight but weight drained Light heavyweights from the worst division in years. Ward has nowhere to go. He is irrelevant. Nobody cares when he is fighting next. But Carl Froch is packing houses and putting on shows. So Ward can say what he likes the bottom line is he boring as **** and fans don't give a shit about seeing him.

AND he ducked Dirrell and Bute
Dirrell is the one that pulled out of their fight. I guess Lewis was ducking Bowe when Bowe threw his title in the trash.

And all Bute had to do was beat a good fighter but instead got destroyed vs Froch proving that he's never earned ir deserved a shot.

The butthurt is strong with this one.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:20 PM   #27
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What part of "Ward is the most boring fighter in the world of the last 60 years" do YOU not understand?

As effective and skillfull as he is, he is boring as ****, awful to watch and nobody really gives a shit about him. It doesn't matter that he outboxed Froch, nobody gives a shit, everybody wants to see Carl Froch and nobody goes out of their way to see Ward because he couldn't attract flies to dogshit because he is absolutely unwatchable.

Carl Froch can excite a full house on either side of the Atlantic, and continues to do so, Ward is left on the sidelines making no money, and with nobody worthwhile to fight but weight drained Light heavyweights from the worst division in years. Ward has nowhere to go. He is irrelevant. Nobody cares when he is fighting next. But Carl Froch is packing houses and putting on shows. So Ward can say what he likes the bottom line is he boring as **** and fans don't give a shit about seeing him.

AND he ducked Dirrell and Bute
What a disgraceful post. What a disgraceful poster.
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What a disgraceful post. What a disgraceful poster.
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