Broner's P4P rating - Page 2

gobblock · 11-18-2012, 01:10 PM

Ha... Way too early.

IGIFTK · 11-18-2012, 01:18 PM

I have him somewhere between 12-15. Very promising fighter.

skoorydookatron · 11-18-2012, 01:18 PM

Not that high at the moment few more good wins to go yet definitely not top 10.

DeMarco is his 1st good solid win but looks like he will get there.

McGrain · 11-18-2012, 01:28 PM

Hell no. Viloria just broke into my list and he had to wipe out four really top guys to get there.

McGrain · 11-18-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IGIFTK

I have him somewhere between 12-15. Very promising fighter.

Can I see your top 15?? IS he above Orlando Solido??

Big Left · 11-18-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dwighttsharpe

Guy just destroyed 2 weight divisions. Threatening another.

How is beating DeMarco destroying 130?

Do people really fall for the HBO machine that easily? The guy is a paper belt holder, he has never beaten a champion - just gets easy fights to win vacant belts. Totally fabricated.

Porgeous Porge · 11-18-2012, 01:38 PM

Not top 10

he has what 2 quality wins and 2 titles 1 of which at one of the weakest weights in boxing and he never unified

Im not knocking Broner he is young and just emerging but he has 2 good wins

P4P top 10 should be obvious it should be for guys with like 10 or 20 quality wins

Broner has the goods he will probably be there within 5 fights unless they continue to pair him carefully, seeing as they gave him Demarco it looks like they are ready to step up

CASH_718 · 11-18-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dwighttsharpe

Guy just destroyed 2 weight divisions. Threatening another.

Definitely in top 10, considering who's in some of them(cough, cough..Froch).

He can wait though. Guy's still just a kid.

Destroyed two weight classes? His best win at 130 was a razor thin decision vs a 126 pounder and he only has one win at 135.

What crack are you smoking?

miniq · 11-18-2012, 01:53 PM

#13 at best.

2 more fights @ 135 then might as well join the jam packed 140...

McGrain · 11-18-2012, 01:53 PM

yeah, dude goes on HBO, looks - admittedly - awesome, and all of a sudden he's top 10 p4p material. Meahwhile nobody can explain why he hasn't beaten a champion or done anything to deserve being ranked above Abner Mares. Oh well.

dwighttsharpe · 11-18-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by McGrain

yeah, dude goes on HBO, looks - admittedly - awesome, and all of a sudden he's top 10 p4p material. Meahwhile nobody can explain why he hasn't beaten a champion or done anything to deserve being ranked above Abner Mares. Oh well.

What do you mean "hasn't beaten a champion"?

He just effortlessly destroyed the "champion" and best in the weight class, in his first fight in that class?

Collie · 11-18-2012, 02:06 PM

I think I agree with many of the sentiments on here that place him top 15 but not top 10. I do think he is close already. I reckon he would be the betting favourite against all opponents at 130-135 and against many at 140.

I know the Mayweather comparisions will always be there with Broner and I admit I was too young to remember a Mayweather of the 1990's, but he broke into the P4P list in 1998 and 1999 after around 20 fights I think. Was Mayweather just better, were his opponents better? Was there less competition for P4P at the time?

I think it's difficult to take many out of the P4P list at the moment (Ring), Vitali maybe or Bradley at a push, but the likes of Mayweather (barring inactivity) Pacquaio Ward Marquez Donaire Wladamir Martinez are fairly nailed on top 10 P4P. So in conclusion I probably agree with Broner at 11-15 at the moment.

the cobra · 11-18-2012, 02:07 PM

#19.

McGrain · 11-18-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dwighttsharpe

What do you mean "hasn't beaten a champion"?

He just effortlessly destroyed the "champion" and best in the weight class, in his first fight in that class?

I think i'd have ranked DeMarco as #1 in that division prior to last night and he had some strap or other but there is no lineage at 135. If he beats Burns he crowns the division for me.

orriray59 · 11-18-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dwighttsharpe

What do you mean "hasn't beaten a champion"?

He just effortlessly destroyed the "champion" and best in the weight class, in his first fight in that class?

I think he means the unified champ, or clear #1. Some people would argue that Vazquez or Burns could be considered the best, also.

DeMarco held a WBC title. He wasn't exactly the champ at lightweight.

11-18-2012, 01:10 PM	#16
gobblock Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,064 vCash: 75	Re: Broner's P4P rating Ha... Way too early.
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11-18-2012, 01:18 PM	#17
IGIFTK S.Kovalev is a problem. ESB Full Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: CA Posts: 420 vCash: 1000	Re: Broner's P4P rating I have him somewhere between 12-15. Very promising fighter.
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11-18-2012, 01:18 PM	#18
skoorydookatron Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 794 vCash: 1768	Re: Broner's P4P rating Not that high at the moment few more good wins to go yet definitely not top 10. DeMarco is his 1st good solid win but looks like he will get there.
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11-18-2012, 01:28 PM	#19
McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 63,254 vCash: 1000	Re: Broner's P4P rating Hell no. Viloria just broke into my list and he had to wipe out four really top guys to get there.
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11-18-2012, 01:38 PM	#22
Porgeous Porge Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,271 vCash: 500	Re: Broner's P4P rating Not top 10 he has what 2 quality wins and 2 titles 1 of which at one of the weakest weights in boxing and he never unified Im not knocking Broner he is young and just emerging but he has 2 good wins P4P top 10 should be obvious it should be for guys with like 10 or 20 quality wins Broner has the goods he will probably be there within 5 fights unless they continue to pair him carefully, seeing as they gave him Demarco it looks like they are ready to step up
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11-18-2012, 01:53 PM	#24
miniq 移动像水 East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: England Posts: 5,056 vCash: 75	Re: Broner's P4P rating #13 at best. 2 more fights @ 135 then might as well join the jam packed 140...
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11-18-2012, 01:53 PM	#25
McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 63,254 vCash: 1000	Re: Broner's P4P rating yeah, dude goes on HBO, looks - admittedly - awesome, and all of a sudden he's top 10 p4p material. Meahwhile nobody can explain why he hasn't beaten a champion or done anything to deserve being ranked above Abner Mares. Oh well.
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11-18-2012, 02:06 PM	#27
Collie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,357 vCash: 4833	Re: Broner's P4P rating I think I agree with many of the sentiments on here that place him top 15 but not top 10. I do think he is close already. I reckon he would be the betting favourite against all opponents at 130-135 and against many at 140. I know the Mayweather comparisions will always be there with Broner and I admit I was too young to remember a Mayweather of the 1990's, but he broke into the P4P list in 1998 and 1999 after around 20 fights I think. Was Mayweather just better, were his opponents better? Was there less competition for P4P at the time? I think it's difficult to take many out of the P4P list at the moment (Ring), Vitali maybe or Bradley at a push, but the likes of Mayweather (barring inactivity) Pacquaio Ward Marquez Donaire Wladamir Martinez are fairly nailed on top 10 P4P. So in conclusion I probably agree with Broner at 11-15 at the moment.
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11-18-2012, 02:07 PM	#28
the cobra Awesomeizationism! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,991 vCash: 1000	Re: Broner's P4P rating #19.
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