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Old 11-18-2012, 02:18 PM   #16
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Not that high at the moment few more good wins to go yet definitely not top 10.

DeMarco is his 1st good solid win but looks like he will get there.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:28 PM   #17
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Hell no. Viloria just broke into my list and he had to wipe out four really top guys to get there.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:29 PM   #18
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I have him somewhere between 12-15. Very promising fighter.
Can I see your top 15?? IS he above Orlando Solido??
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:33 PM   #19
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Guy just destroyed 2 weight divisions. Threatening another.
How is beating DeMarco destroying 130?

Do people really fall for the HBO machine that easily? The guy is a paper belt holder, he has never beaten a champion - just gets easy fights to win vacant belts. Totally fabricated.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:38 PM   #20
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Not top 10

he has what 2 quality wins and 2 titles 1 of which at one of the weakest weights in boxing and he never unified

Im not knocking Broner he is young and just emerging but he has 2 good wins

P4P top 10 should be obvious it should be for guys with like 10 or 20 quality wins

Broner has the goods he will probably be there within 5 fights unless they continue to pair him carefully, seeing as they gave him Demarco it looks like they are ready to step up
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:52 PM   #21
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Guy just destroyed 2 weight divisions. Threatening another.

Definitely in top 10, considering who's in some of them(cough, cough..Froch).

He can wait though. Guy's still just a kid.
Destroyed two weight classes? His best win at 130 was a razor thin decision vs a 126 pounder and he only has one win at 135.

What crack are you smoking?
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:53 PM   #22
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#13 at best.

2 more fights @ 135 then might as well join the jam packed 140...
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:53 PM   #23
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yeah, dude goes on HBO, looks - admittedly - awesome, and all of a sudden he's top 10 p4p material. Meahwhile nobody can explain why he hasn't beaten a champion or done anything to deserve being ranked above Abner Mares. Oh well.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:00 PM   #24
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yeah, dude goes on HBO, looks - admittedly - awesome, and all of a sudden he's top 10 p4p material. Meahwhile nobody can explain why he hasn't beaten a champion or done anything to deserve being ranked above Abner Mares. Oh well.
What do you mean "hasn't beaten a champion"?

He just effortlessly destroyed the "champion" and best in the weight class, in his first fight in that class?
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:06 PM   #25
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I think I agree with many of the sentiments on here that place him top 15 but not top 10. I do think he is close already. I reckon he would be the betting favourite against all opponents at 130-135 and against many at 140.

I know the Mayweather comparisions will always be there with Broner and I admit I was too young to remember a Mayweather of the 1990's, but he broke into the P4P list in 1998 and 1999 after around 20 fights I think. Was Mayweather just better, were his opponents better? Was there less competition for P4P at the time?

I think it's difficult to take many out of the P4P list at the moment (Ring), Vitali maybe or Bradley at a push, but the likes of Mayweather (barring inactivity) Pacquaio Ward Marquez Donaire Wladamir Martinez are fairly nailed on top 10 P4P. So in conclusion I probably agree with Broner at 11-15 at the moment.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:07 PM   #26
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:09 PM   #27
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What do you mean "hasn't beaten a champion"?

He just effortlessly destroyed the "champion" and best in the weight class, in his first fight in that class?
I think i'd have ranked DeMarco as #1 in that division prior to last night and he had some strap or other but there is no lineage at 135. If he beats Burns he crowns the division for me.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:33 PM   #28
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Not there yet but he will be. Top 15-20.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:34 PM   #29
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I think I agree with many of the sentiments on here that place him top 15 but not top 10. I do think he is close already. I reckon he would be the betting favourite against all opponents at 130-135 and against many at 140.

I know the Mayweather comparisions will always be there with Broner and I admit I was too young to remember a Mayweather of the 1990's, but he broke into the P4P list in 1998 and 1999 after around 20 fights I think. Was Mayweather just better, were his opponents better? Was there less competition for P4P at the time?

I think it's difficult to take many out of the P4P list at the moment (Ring), Vitali maybe or Bradley at a push, but the likes of Mayweather (barring inactivity) Pacquaio Ward Marquez Donaire Wladamir Martinez are fairly nailed on top 10 P4P. So in conclusion I probably agree with Broner at 11-15 at the moment.
The problem is he only really has 1 big win and would you have rated DeMarco top 15 P4P before the Broner fight?

Don't forget outside of the top ten you have Froch with wins over Pascal, Taylor, Abraham, Johnson and Bute. Viloria has recently been on a win streak picking up 2 titles and beating some highly rated fighters. Gamboa although inactive has some good wins, Garcia with a knock out win over Khan. Orlando Salido could be top 15 with wins over Lopez who was highly rated at the time.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:38 PM   #30
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I'd have a hard time moving anyone down at this point. Who do you kick off? Froch? Mares? Vitali? Broner is deserving of a ranking, but everyone above him is still deserving of a spot somewhere above him.
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