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Old 11-18-2012, 02:53 PM   #16
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Shhhh. Brood doesnt like that comment because boxing is a dirty sport. Dont ever mention that Floyd was deducted a point for excessive use of elbows.
Oh look the poor baby's feelings are hurt. Because I called him out on his whining. Now he's acting all paranoid.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:02 PM   #17
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Does anyone else think that the left forearm is used somewhat as a 'weapon' in the shoulder roll defense? I've watched countless mayweather fight's and he hide's it pretty well, but Broner's destruction of demarco last night it seemed obvious he was pushing the forearm against demarco's throat.
Thoughts?
I'm pretty sure you can count them, there are only 43. J/K
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:14 PM   #18
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A five year old can spell fag. Its not that hard

I will once you stop whining like a bitch.

Your the one who brought it up in the first place idiot. And considering you can't spell fag. It wasn't out of the realm of possibility that you didn't know wrestling was fake.
Son, you are in no position to be questioning someone else's spelling.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:18 PM   #19
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not as bad as tyson after he threw a left hook with an elbow at the end
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:21 PM   #20
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If I were facing such an opponent, I'd just bang away at that bicep.
Forget the head, just cripple that left arm, and score lots of easy points while doing it.

If you get the distance right, so that you are JUST reaching that arm, then your opponent can't touch you without dangerously leaning forward.

By round 6-7, you'd be facing a 1-armed fighter, and be way ahead on the cards.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:24 PM   #21
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If I were facing such an opponent, I'd just bang away at that bicep. forget the head, cripple that left arm, and score lots of easy points while doing it.

By round 6-7, you'd be facing a 1-armed fighter, and be way ahead on the cards.
You are far from the first one to "say" you would do that. The reality is discovered in the ring.

See Gatti, Corrales, etc. on how that worked out.

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Old 11-18-2012, 10:49 PM   #22
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Oh look the poor baby's feelings are hurt. Because I called him out on his whining. Now he's acting all paranoid.
Well well well. The pro-gay English professor just don't want to stop.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:59 PM   #23
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Does anyone else think that the left forearm is used somewhat as a 'weapon' in the shoulder roll defense? I've watched countless mayweather fight's and he hide's it pretty well, but Broner's destruction of demarco last night it seemed obvious he was pushing the forearm against demarco's throat.
Thoughts?
I can think of three advantages:

1) Defense. You'll notice the other fighter more often than not hits the extended forearm before his punch gets any momentum. Broner was using that very efffectively.

2) Creates space. The slight push off creates more space for a cleaner punch.

3) It could also be slightly dirty. The forearm is dense and with the elbow right there it's not too difficult to use it to your offensive advantage even when you don't intend to. People have accused floyd of using elbows.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:12 PM   #24
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If I were facing such an opponent, I'd just bang away at that bicep.
Forget the head, just cripple that left arm, and score lots of easy points while doing it.

If you get the distance right, so that you are JUST reaching that arm, then your opponent can't touch you without dangerously leaning forward.

By round 6-7, you'd be facing a 1-armed fighter, and be way ahead on the cards.
Not everyone has the bone crushing power of Marciano to make that effective while being wary of counter punches.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:21 PM   #25
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this thread is full of dumb asses that need to be shot asap.the forearm or elbow is used as well to block/parry punches from the philly shell defense. sometimes it gets in a fighters face but when the ref sees it will tell them to stop it if it becomes a problem. yall act like mayweather and broner or ****ing anderson silva droping bows on people. stop it ok, just cut it the **** out PLEASE!!

oh and know one created room or ****ed someone up more with the elbow the tito triniadad.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:25 PM   #26
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Can be dirty or clean tactic within the style with the fighter determining that. As said Toney fought clean within the shell while Mayweather is dirty as hell elbow striking opponents and pulling their necks down. Just part of the sport. If people want it to be "squeky clean" get it banned but better yet don't watch it.

Some outboxers like Holmes would hold their hand out and move their opponent which is a foul too for instance. Just depends on who does a certain style and how they apply their tactics to it. Also who refs the fights and if they kiss up. Some people will always foul to get their way just part of any sport with physical contact really. Cornerbacks in the NFL may hold the receiver slowing them down. A defensive perimeter player in the NBA would hold their opposing scoring pg/sg jersey. I could go on.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:53 PM   #27
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It's a tool, and like most roughhousing, I don't have a problem with it unless it becomes excessive or exaggerated. At the end of the day, it's a fight.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:04 AM   #28
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For as much shit as he talked and as ghetto he tried to make himself seem, Toney was actually 1 of the cleanest fighters ive seen.

Rarely saw him hit low blows, elbow in throat, rabbit punching etc.
He also never complained to the ref or over exaggerated a foul and he got fouled a lot. Holyfield butted the shit out of him, Jirov did a mini Golota on his nuts and Rahman was bending him over backwards on the ropes with his elbow in his neck, rabbit punching, holding and hitting and best the **** out of his kidneys and never once does he even glance at the ref or make any motion complaining.
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