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Old 11-18-2012, 03:56 PM   #1
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Default Top 25 Heavyweights

Here's the current HW ranking as I see it, based upon matches and outcomes, rather then h2h speculation.

1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Haye
5. Chambers
6. Adamek
7. Pulev
8. Helenius
9. Arreola
10. Fury
11. Thompson
12. Cunningham
13. Solis
14. Banks
15. Boystov
16. Chagaev
17. Chisora
18. Dimitrenko
19. Lawrence
20. Price
21. Johnson
22. Stiverne
23. Wach
24. Pianeta
25. Gomez

honorable mention: Ustinov, Hamer, Glazkov, Mansour, Grant, Holyfield, Perez

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Old 11-18-2012, 04:03 PM   #2
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Where's Edmund Gerber? He's 22-0 you know.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:06 PM   #3
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Where's Edmund Gerber? He's 22-0 you know.
Hypejob.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:10 PM   #4
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Here's the current HW ranking as I see it, based upon matches and outcomes, rather then h2h speculation.

1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Haye
5. Chambers
6. Adamek
7. Pulev
8. Helenius
9. Arreola
10. Fury
...
Good list, we all can come up with different and reasonable ranking combos. For the top 10 I'd up Pulev a few spots, drop Chambers a few.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:12 PM   #5
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thompson.cunningham.chisora and dimi...sorry but nooooooooooooooooo
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:23 PM   #6
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Here's the current HW ranking as I see it, based upon matches and outcomes, rather then h2h speculation.

1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Haye
5. Chambers
6. Adamek
7. Pulev
8. Helenius
9. Arreola
10. Fury
11. Thompson
12. Cunningham
13. Solis
14. Banks
15. Boystov
16. Chagaev
17. Chisora
18. Dimitrenko
19. Lawrence
20. Price
21. Johnson
22. Stiverne
23. Wach
24. Pianeta
25. Gomez

honorable mention: Ustinov, Hamer, Glazkov, Mansour, Grant, Holyfield, Perez
Where's Jennings? No Mitchell might be a little harsh.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:30 PM   #7
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Where's Jennings? No Mitchell might be a little harsh.
Mitchell was always a stretch to be Top 20 and has now been exposed.

Jennings hasn't beaten anyone of note---Liakovitch is too far past his prime to count. He's a very good prospect though and is probably Top 25 h2h.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:31 PM   #8
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thompson.cunningham.chisora and dimi...sorry but nooooooooooooooooo
These guys would destroy many of the hypejobs that show up on Top 20 lists. All 4 are decent heavyweights with good wins. Only Cunningham is somewhat unproven, yet his reign as a cruiser champ ought to earn him more respect.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:37 PM   #9
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Helenius ahead of Fury.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:40 PM   #10
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Helenius ahead of Fury.
honestly it may be a stretch to have Fury so high, but I feel Fury has improved alot in the last year. Plus his willingness to take on Boystov and Johnson shows he must be feeling quite confident atm.

Helenius deserves more credit for getting past Sherman Williams, who is a very difficult guy to beat. SW was probably a better win for RH then shot Peter. But I understand your point in the sense that I agree RH isn't Top 10 h2h.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:42 PM   #11
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Why did you rank USS so high, ludwig?
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:43 PM   #12
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honestly it may be a stretch to have Fury so high, but I feel Fury has improved alot in the last year. Plus his willingness to take on Boystov and Johnson shows he must be feeling quite confident atm.

Helenius deserves more credit for getting past Sherman Williams, who is a very difficult guy to beat. But I understand your point in the sense that I agree RH isn't Top 10 h2h.
Fury beat Chisora.
Helenius lost to him.

That's all that needs to be said really.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:47 PM   #13
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Fury beat Chisora.
Helenius lost to him.

That's all that needs to be said really.
Not if you take into account

-Chisora's conditioning vrs. Fury
-RH was probably fighting with an injury vrs. Chisora
-Fury has benefited from at least 1 robbery and several questionable ref jobs to keep his unbeaten record.
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Fury beat Chisora.
Helenius lost to him.

That's all that needs to be said really.
Helenius won a SD, last time I saw the decision announced.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:52 PM   #15
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Chambers should not be on that list. He moved down to CW.
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