I Dont think bellews the fighter his fans on ESB talk him up to be

[TFFP]

Forget what Cleverly does, Flint. I'm pretty sure Bellew's chances at world class are going to rest on his own performances over the next 18 months. He's going to get a chance somewhere along the line. It may well even be before Cleverly fights a world class opponent at this rate!

[Lance]

Originally Posted by pikecubic

Exactly! He is a completely different fighter since returning to the rotunda. Mick and Mark have taken him back to basics and I believe he has steadily improved since then which has shown in each fight. I believe he is still very much a work in progress and people seem to forget that although he is 29, he has only had 19 pro fights and is still very much developing within the pro game. I believe he did the right thing in outboxing Miranda rather then getting involved in a tear up, and I think the criticism leveled at him following that fight was unfair. I believe his tactics before the cut in last nights fight though were a reaction to said criticism, but the fact that he was smart and skilled enough to completely change tactics following the cut showed how far he has come in the last 2 years.

Bellew sacked Mark Quinn about 4 months ago

[JamieC]

Originally Posted by Lance

Bellew sacked Mark Quinn about 4 months ago

source for that? how would he still train at the rotunda?

[Lance]

Originally Posted by JamieC

source for that? how would he still train at the rotunda?

Mark Quinn is no longer at the Retunda

[JamieC]

Originally Posted by Lance

Mark Quinn is no longer at the Retunda

where is he now and any source for this?

[Check_Hook]

Originally Posted by JamieC

where is he now and any source for this?

Not in england

[pikecubic]

Originally Posted by Lance

Bellew sacked Mark Quinn about 4 months ago

didnt realise that, you know the reason?

[Lance]

Originally Posted by pikecubic

didnt realise that, you know the reason?

No idea mate

[lozkina]

Originally Posted by IRONSENSE2002

he doesn't do any thing outstanding, and his hand speed is very poor, he throws wide looping shots which are easy to avoid, i don't think he would beat cleverly in a rematch

been away in asia so catching up on esb, i support your politcs but disagree with your views on bomber the kid just keeps getting better

[lozkina]

Originally Posted by BoxingAnalyst

People can slate Bellew all they want but two years ago he was struggling against English/British level fighters, he's up there with Selby and Burns as Britain's most improved fighters, he's done very well in a short space of time recently IMO.

Let's be honest, after the Ajisafe and Mckenzie fights did you honestly even think he'd go past British level? Everyone was ripping him to shreds on here.

I see him as a fringe world level fighter at the minute, who knows give it another 18 months he may continue to improve and become the world class fighter he believes he can be, he's certainly talented enough.

As for last nights performance I thought it was perfectly acceptable considering the cut, he was far too keen to get his man out of there though, especially early on, when he works behind his jab and uses his intelligence he's a hard man to beat.

great reading

[Its me you see]

Originally Posted by IRONSENSE2002

You are right. i shouldn't be spouting jargon. Its just very irritating that on the brit forum, Bellew has such a big following and people describe him as fan friendly when in at least 3 of his fights he's looked utterly boring. I just don't think he's the fighter people talk him up to be. and when you read things like he's the best technical boxer in the UK, i find statements like this absolutely mind boggling.

Fair response mate.