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Old 11-18-2012, 11:21 AM   #76
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Okay Brits.

Now it is right time for the COLD HARD TRUTH.

Next one going down is David Price, not a single fukin doubt about that.
There is not really excuse for him. He can not help his chin not even his long amateur pedigree.
Actually it can. Wilder and Fury are alot more likely, Price's chin may be equally vulnerable (may, we don't know as we haven't seen that as a pro yet which further demonstrates the point) but his pedigree and skill set makes it more difficult to get to than the other two guys.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:07 PM   #77
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funny that no1 is giving banks credit...but yea mitchell's chin is unreal. must be something about maryland fighters & poor chins...hasbeen rock comes to mind.
Yeah, must be something in the water that makes those Maryland chins extra glassy.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:34 PM   #78
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Yeah, must be something in the water that makes those Maryland chins extra glassy.
D.C. is not part of Maryland.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:48 PM   #79
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Would say Fury's already reasonably well tested against Chisora.
He deserves some credit for that fight, but not too much - it was an out of shape Chisora, who had yet to fight Helenius, Klitschko and Haye - ie. two prospects going at it.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:52 PM   #80
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Damn? IF it was against a banger we could give Seth a pass but Banks???
Pass revoked. No coming back from this... Just wish Emmanuel was here to see this.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:52 PM   #81
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Price and Fury beat Banks aswell.
They are untested though,Price moreso than Fury but they're both levels ahead of the likes of Mitchell.
We all know Banks was brought in as a stepping stone,he's not even a natural heavy and he ****ing destroyed
Mitchell.
Where's the evidence to say that either guy would beat Banks? They might and they might not, but neither guy has been in with a solid, experienced pro who isn't ancient. I'm not saying Banks would KO them like he did Mitchell, but he could well take either man into deep water if they don't blow him out.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:55 PM   #82
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No way are Fury and Price as bad as Mitchell.

Dereck Chisora would murder Mitchell. Fury beat Chisora.

Mitchell is a JOKE.

A FLAT OUT BUM.
The argument was that both Fury and Price are just as untested as Mitchell. They might be better, but let's see when they step it up. Fury did beat Chisora, but it was an out of shape version who did not yet have the experience he has since aquired. It would be very interesting to see the British prospects against a solid contender like Banks - let's see if they can beat a well-schooled guy in his prime before throwing them to the lions. David Price has never gone past 7 rounds in a pro fight ffs.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:56 PM   #83
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Where's the evidence to say that either guy would beat Banks? They might and they might not, but neither guy has been in with a solid, experienced pro who isn't ancient. I'm not saying Banks would KO them like he did Mitchell, but he could well take either man into deep water if they don't blow him out.
Brits love to just pose these hypothetical h2h matchups and Fury/Price always win by KO. It's a trend.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:01 PM   #84
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Brits love to just pose these hypothetical h2h matchups and Fury/Price always win by KO. It's a trend.
I understand getting behind your own and all the rest, but facts are facts; until guys like Price and Fury shows they can handle adversity and go the full 12 rounds against real opposition, no-one should pick them over the champion. It's kinda sad that guys like that go in the current top 10 at HW. You really should have to beat somebody to get in there.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:25 PM   #85
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Actually it can. Wilder and Fury are alot more likely, Price's chin may be equally vulnerable (may, we don't know as we haven't seen that as a pro yet which further demonstrates the point) but his pedigree and skill set makes it more difficult to get to than the other two guys.
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Some folks around here truly DKSAB. Taking a punch is much more dependent on skill than on physical toughness.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:07 PM   #86
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Banks has no chin . And he won. So why is Mitchell done now.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:18 PM   #87
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I understand getting behind your own and all the rest, but facts are facts; until guys like Price and Fury shows they can handle adversity and go the full 12 rounds against real opposition, no-one should pick them over the champion. It's kinda sad that guys like that go in the current top 10 at HW. You really should have to beat somebody to get in there.
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Where is Price Top10?

I dont like Fury in the Top10 but he has beaten Chisora, has a chin and was a decent amateur.
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:11 PM   #88
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i don't think one ko loss exposes a fighter, but he clearly looked like he folds under pressure. seen this fight 15 times now and it never seems to amaze me looked like he was ready to cry or quit even in the first knock down. i would't say seth was really hurt after the first knock down it was more like he never been in this situation and pancic and therefore banks was able to ko him a minute later.
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:56 PM   #89
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Where's the evidence to say that either guy would beat Banks? They might and they might not, but neither guy has been in with a solid, experienced pro who isn't ancient. I'm not saying Banks would KO them like he did Mitchell, but he could well take either man into deep water if they don't blow him out.
Fury, like I said, has already been in with Chisora who, whilst he was out of shape, was still the man who went on to emphatically beat a top prospect in Helenius later that same year. Whilst he might have retrospectively gained experience fighting Helenius and Vitali, he certainly didn't gain much fighting Ziausys, so I think it's reasonable to assume that Fury went in with a dangerous contender and one who might very well have been able to clean his clock that night, overweight or not.

As for Price, whilst he doesn't have a massive name on his resume yet I'd argue that both ***ton and McDermott were solid experienced pros who were more than capable of exposing guys who weren't up to scratch like Olubamiwo. Price not only beat them but destroyed them, without taking so much as a lick of punishment in return. In fact he's steamrolled his opposition so thoroughly to date that that he really hasn't shown us any weaknesses. That's both a plus and a minus. Still, the manner in which he boxes, which very scarily resembles a younger Wlad, is encouraging for his future. He already has deep amateur experience and has suffered TKO losses there, so he's aware he's not invincible. I don't see him making rookie mistakes or taking unnecessary chances, and with his height and good fundamentals he can very easily keep things behind a jab if he needs to.

If the evidence is against anyone it's against Banks himself. Whilst Banks is a canny pro, he's looked less than impressive against a number of lesser fighters at heavyweight, struggling against Gavern, going the distance with Julius Long and so on. Whilst he got the win of his life last night, I'd say it's very unlikely he'd be able to repeat his success twice, especially against the likes of Fury or Price, both of whose height would make it very difficult for him to set traps or counter them in the manner that he did against Seth.
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:31 PM   #90
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I just saw whole fight--Mitchell is awful. I take back anything good I said about his potential. He has no ability to recover, looks shocked when hit. Is brave keep trying.

He has no defense, throws right hand leads from too far away for them to land anyway. If he had half a defense he would have some potential, he just leads with head open.
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