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Old 11-18-2012, 09:41 PM   #16
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good points mate though i still think hes got a good bit of work to do to get in uk top ten
Who would you have in top 10. Off top of your head?.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:09 PM   #17
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Who would you have in top 10. Off top of your head?.
not ranked here are guys that i would rate above froch


jack broughton
jimmy wilde
kid berg
howard winstone
lennox lewis
ted kid lewis
ken buchanan
calzaghe
conteh
bob fitsimmons
naz
duke mckenzie
james figg
honeyghan
mcguigan
benn
eubank
jack broughton
jimmy wilde
kid berg
howard winstone
steve collins
dave mcauley
jim watt

i know an argument can be made for carl achieving more than some on the list like macauley, steve collins. dont worry i havent forgot about hatton i would rank him above hatton though its very contentiuos
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:21 PM   #18
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not ranked here are guys that i would rate above froch


jack broughton
jimmy wilde
kid berg
howard winstone
lennox lewis
ted kid lewis
ken buchanan
calzaghe
conteh
bob fitsimmons
naz
duke mckenzie
james figg
honeyghan
mcguigan
benn
eubank
jack broughton
jimmy wilde
kid berg
howard winstone
steve collins
dave mcauley
jim watt

i know an argument can be made for carl achieving more than some on the list like macauley, steve collins. dont worry i havent forgot about hatton i would rank him above hatton though its very contentiuos
Mcgiugan?
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:28 PM   #19
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:38 PM   #20
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Mcgiugan?
just my opinion based on ability froch has achieved more
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:46 AM   #21
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Mcgiugan?
controversial, i wouldnt put him in a british list tbh
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:53 AM   #22
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I wouldn't rank Winstone above him, no way, and I love Winstone.

Similarly lost to the best of his era and Legra and Seki (controversial that one as well) do not usurp Bute, Pascal, Abraham...even though I feel Legra was better than all of those.

McAuley? Seriously?! I love McAuley but he lost to the best he fced (Bassa X2) and got a gift against Blanco FFS
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:57 AM   #23
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:23 AM   #24
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TIGEREDGE please tell me about all the top flyweight contenders McAuley beat that means Frochy is still playing catch up to him?

EDIT: I see you made allowances for that, so my next question is why Duke and McAuley and not Rudkin, McGowan, Paterson, Lynch etc etc???
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:32 AM   #25
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:47 AM   #26
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You can say a lot of things about Froch - technically he's not exactly supreme, he lost to the two best fighters he faced, etc....

But the one thing you simply can't do is knock his opposition - he's fought literally everyone in his weight class worthy of mentioning.

Faced all his domestic rivals, a fair few international contenders and all available world level fighters during his time in the top 5 or so in the division.

It was only 7-8 months ago ''experts'' like Steve Bunce were saying he should fight a couple of bus drivers to build his confidence after the Ward defeat. Instead he wasted a man who Ward and Pavlik weren't all that keen on facing (why I don't know), and then took an OK-ish filler fight immediately afterwards whilst lining up more tough fights for 2013.

He's fought top fighters on a more consistent and basis than any other British fighter in recent times. Hatton and Calzaghe both fought their fair share of turds, Khan has fought a few, ditto Haye and the assortment of ''Allegedly world champions'' that Britain has had.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:58 AM   #27
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:01 PM   #28
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How come people always mention Steve Collins in a best of British fighters?
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:02 PM   #29
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Even if Froch doesn't make the top ten that doesn't mean he's a British great. H'e probably around the 30 mark for me which is a hell of an achievement and he he still has more to give yet. On a British standpoint is Benn/Eubank/Honeyghans resumes really that much better than Frochs?
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:31 PM   #30
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Check out the Froch-Honeyghan thread doing the rounds today: yes Honeyghan is greater than Froch IMO
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