Are Bute's speed overrated?

persianprince · 11-19-2012, 06:38 AM

I think it is, i mean people compared his speed to Ward, but to be honest it's not like he was very faster than Froch, maybe a little bit. I think he has decent speed, maybe a little faster than Kessler but not much.

oibighead · 11-19-2012, 06:42 AM

He is not slow by any stretch of the imagination. Its decent, obviously not blindingly.

persianprince · 11-19-2012, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by oibighead

He is not slow by any stretch of the imagination. Its decent, obviously not blindingly.

Yeah that what i was thinking, but people overrated his speed

BeastsideBoxing · 11-19-2012, 06:48 AM

He's probably behind Ward and Dirrell in therms of speed. Froch's stance is more bothering, and Bute's deference is vulnerable to some of Froch's best shots.

oibighead · 11-19-2012, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by persianprince

Yeah that what i was thinking, but people overrated his speed

I think he has good timing, and is fluid when throwing his shots.

Ive never watched him and thought jeez this guy is fast

persianprince · 11-19-2012, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

He's probably behind Ward and Dirrell in therms of speed. Froch's stance is more bothering, and Bute's deference is vulnerable to some of Froch's best shots.

I think he is a little faster than Kessler, but not much. So yeah i probably agree with you and good points. Froch is very awkward and Bute's defense is... yeah to say it right away: bullshit

DrMo · 11-19-2012, 07:09 AM

Handspeed: decent
Reflexes: average
Footspeed: average/poor

DrMo · 11-19-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

He's probably behind Ward and Dirrell in therms of speed. Froch's stance is more bothering, and Bute's deference is vulnerable to some of Froch's best shots.

Bute likes to plant his feet in a fairly wide stance & his primary means of defence is upperbody/head movement. He's good at slipping single shots but doesnt have the reflexes to avoid combinations & sustained attacks.

Froch was able to land so often because after he stepped in with his left foot Bute didnt readjust & ended up squared up. By not using much lateral movement Bute spent a lot of the fight going straight backwards & onto the ropes.

tobias · 11-19-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMo

Handspeed: decent
Reflexes: average
Footspeed: average/poor

This is because you watched only his last fight. Check Bute vs. Andrade II! He's very fast. Ward has only better footwork than him.

futurechamp10 · 11-19-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tobias

This is because you watched only his last fight. Check Bute vs. Andrade II! He's very fast. Ward has only better footwork than him.

...and hand speed, defense, array of punches, ring IQ, technique, heart, reflexes, infighting, outfighting, pretty much everything really.

Imperial1 · 11-19-2012, 08:26 AM

No just Bute .He was overrated !

BeastsideBoxing · 11-19-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMo

Bute likes to plant his feet in a fairly wide stance & his primary means of defence is upperbody/head movement. He's good at slipping single shots but doesnt have the reflexes to avoid combinations & sustained attacks.

Froch was able to land so often because after he stepped in with his left foot Bute didnt readjust & ended up squared up. By not using much lateral movement Bute spent a lot of the fight going straight backwards & onto the ropes.

Interesting read. Thanks.

PityTheFool · 11-19-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tobias

This is because you watched only his last fight. Check Bute vs. Andrade II! He's very fast. Ward has only better footwork than him.

The only area where Ward matches Bute is footwork?

Is that your conclusion?

Teddy Edelman · 11-19-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by persianprince

I think he is a little faster than Kessler, but not much. So yeah i probably agree with you and good points. Froch is very awkward and Bute's defense is... yeah to say it right away: bullshit

He is not faster then Kessler!

BeastsideBoxing · 11-19-2012, 08:57 AM

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He is not faster then Kessler!

TBH Kessler isn't as near as fast as Kessler who fought Calzaghe.

11-19-2012, 06:38 AM	#1
persianprince Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,658 vCash: 500	Are Bute's speed overrated? I think it is, i mean people compared his speed to Ward, but to be honest it's not like he was very faster than Froch, maybe a little bit. I think he has decent speed, maybe a little faster than Kessler but not much.
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11-19-2012, 06:42 AM	#2
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BeastsideBoxing Most Notorious Butard East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 8,911 vCash: 906	Re: Are Bute's speed overrated? He's probably behind Ward and Dirrell in therms of speed. Froch's stance is more bothering, and Bute's deference is vulnerable to some of Froch's best shots.
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DrMo Team GB East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 12,573 vCash: 122	Re: Are Bute's speed overrated? Handspeed: decent Reflexes: average Footspeed: average/poor
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Imperial1 P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,941 vCash: 1000	Re: Are Bute's speed overrated? No just Bute .He was overrated !
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