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Old 11-19-2012, 09:58 AM   #61
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Yet he couldn't get a tko victory against a heavy bag?
You are embarassing yourself..... have you even seen the match? everybody was surprised from the Wach's chin.... who do you think could have taken him down? I would bet one of your loved chubby-cruisers-fighting-as-HWs-in-the-so-called-golden-age
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:59 AM   #62
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If Wlad was the exact same fighter but was born Wald and was born and raised in england Steve Bunce would be saying hes one of the greatest of all time
For sure. And the same goes if the K2 were born, with the same names, as Americans citizens.... You would see non-stop ko videos about them in every single channel
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:14 AM   #63
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How many punches did Wlad land? There is no way he threw above the heavy weight average.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:25 AM   #64
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Derrick Chisora who has about 17 fights threw less and land more on Helenius who was actually moving and fighting back.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:28 AM   #65
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You are embarassing yourself..... have you even seen the match? everybody was surprised from the Wach's chin.... who do you think could have taken him down? I would bet one of your loved chubby-cruisers-fighting-as-HWs-in-the-so-called-golden-age
Do you know the difference between a ko and a tko? Anybody could of varied the attack from head to body and the ref would have no choice but to end it. Holyfield most certainly would of.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:31 AM   #66
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Derrick Chisora who has about 17 fights threw less and land more on Helenius who was actually moving and fighting back.

Yea right...
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:32 AM   #67
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Bunce is a sensationalist with a huge British bias, regardless of his employer. But his main source of income is working for Frank W's television channel, and that means he's ******'s promotional tool. I think the motivation for this piece is pretty clear - Cleverly is a ****** fighter who has fought absolutely no one, and is getting a lot of stick from British fans because of it.
I didn't realize Buncey was on M's payroll. Certainly explains a lot, thanks for pointing it out.

At the end of the day I guess Buncey like all of us has bills to pay and he's just kissing the hand that giveth the paycheck.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:35 AM   #68
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This is his latest piece attacking Carl Froch, solely because Froch is promoted by Eddie Hearn. Instead of trying to help grow the sport in the country and supporting all British fighters he just uses his column as a platform to discredit everyone but his own fighters.

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LOL If Froch was with W then Frankie would sing songs of heroism and ATGness on him. This is so ridiculous.

Sad to see how these guys try to use the media to discredit eachother's fighters. They should be happy there are a good number of British fighters competing at world level, it's a stacked era for the UK in boxing terms. Hasn't always been like that.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:44 AM   #69
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Derrick Chisora who has about 17 fights threw less and land more on Helenius who was actually moving and fighting back.
and he didn't TKO or KO him... a one arme helenius made it through... i guess chisora should take a lesson from Cleverly as well.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:59 AM   #70
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and he didn't TKO or KO him... a one arme helenius made it through... i guess chisora should take a lesson from Cleverly as well.
That argument was to some guy who claimed Wlad's punch output was above average against Wach. It wasn't above average, but should of been.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:17 AM   #71
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That argument was to some guy who claimed Wlad's punch output was above average against Wach. It wasn't above average, but should of been.
Yes, it was above average for a heavyweight.
The heavyweight average is 45 per round.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:30 AM   #72
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That argument was to some guy who claimed Wlad's punch output was above average against Wach. It wasn't above average, but should of been.
It is also likely above average for a guy Wlad's size. Can you imagine a heavyewight of Wlad's build throwing that many punchs? There aren't too many heavy weights who can do it, sometimes even you have to cut him some slack.

A lot of people (many brits) tend to be really harsh on Wlad (not sure why) but then i see them do a 360 when it comes to another fighter who has done a lot less (then again we are all biased to some extent)
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:38 AM   #73
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At the very least, Wlad should consider wearing a headband & using Basshunter as his ringwalk music.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:17 PM   #74
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For sure. And the same goes if the K2 were born, with the same names, as Americans citizens.... You would see non-stop ko videos about them in every single channel
Hardly. Given how someone like Floyd Mayweather divides opinion
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