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Old 11-19-2012, 02:24 AM   #16
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ok instead of being bitter faggots that are mad about Broner taking over boxing, how bout you tell me why Broner beat a better version of Demarco with greater ease, throwing less punches and actually knocing him down?? Also why don't you tell me what Valero does better than Broner? Valero never did shit but KO a buncha tomato cans. most overrated fighter ever, he woulda got picked apart by the likes of Marquez or Broner- he was one dimensional and his best win just got one upped by a 23 year old. boom
So...because Pac beat Hatton better than Mayweather did, that means Pac is better than Floyd? Your logic holds no weight.

Broner has good skills. But here are some things that makes Valero dangerous and serve as the right tools to knock Broner out: volume punching, underrated footwork, speed, power, heart, iron chin, good stamina, and probably his best asset: hunger.

You're not looking at Valero's talent. You're going by numbers or what you see in the record books and that's not always the whole story. Even before Broner became a champ any real boxing fan can see he has great talent. Valero was NOT one dimensional. He's not as polished or technically sound as Broner but he had what it took to knock anyone out. Pacquiao once had crude (but special) tools and look how far that got him.
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:06 AM   #17
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People seem to have watched a completely different fight. If you ACTUALLY watched Valero v Demarco you would see that most of the fighting was done on the outside with Demarco backing up throwing jabs and occasional right hand. Against Broner DeMarco wasn't able to box him on the outside or chose not to and instead fought him on the inside where Broners shorter arms and faster hands gave him a huge advantage.
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It's now undeniable that Broner is a better fighter than Valero. Much more rounded, just as powerful (maybe moreso considering he took out Demarco quicker with less punches and actually dropped him), just as quick, far better defensively, physically stronger, equal chin, better infighter.... You name it, at 22 Broner just surpassed Valero's career best win and did it in more impressive fashion vs a better more seasoned version of Demarco.

I would love to see Broner dismantle Rios in his first fight at 140 after decimating Burns in a few rounds. Rios would get beaten so badly especially after Broner proved he's got an inside game, what could Rios possibly do? Funny how before the fight Demarco was considered the best LW by many and people were saying he was gonna give him a tough fight and now he's being written off as bum hahaha Broners one of those guys that some people will never give him credit no matter what they'll always look for ways to discredit him on his inevitable rise to face of boxing and the upper echelon of the P4P list.
valero was a wild fighter, pacman before he fought jmm is what valero reminded me of. he was good fighter but to compare him to boxer like broner was always some dumb shit. they asked that question many of times on different sites. could broner beat demarco worse then valero did ? the answer is yes but now you will here valero ruined him and demarco was a chump. its funny how you read one thing before the fight and something different in the next fight. broner can fight and box, he dont have to run, has power and speed and a smart fighter in the ring. late them hate, the hated on floyd and it would not be right if they aint hate on broner as well.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:18 AM   #19
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Valero walks Broner down and stops him late rounds. PrinceN and Royal T-bag only think Broner would win cos he's 'G' and cos of his skin colour cos thats all they care about.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:26 AM   #20
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valero was a wild fighter, pacman before he fought jmm is what valero reminded me of. he was good fighter but to compare him to boxer like broner was always some dumb shit. they asked that question many of times on different sites. could broner beat demarco worse then valero did ? the answer is yes but now you will here valero ruined him and demarco was a chump. its funny how you read one thing before the fight and something different in the next fight. broner can fight and box, he dont have to run, has power and speed and a smart fighter in the ring. late them hate, the hated on floyd and it would not be right if they aint hate on broner as well.
valero was wild yes. but he was surprisingly good with his feet, and when he wanted to be, hard to hit. he was also intimidating as ****. Made his last 2 opponents quit on their stool, he had that fear factor. I loved the way he looped his hooks, made them look like they could reach round any guard.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:35 AM   #21
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Valero walks Broner down and stops him late rounds. PrinceN and Royal T-bag only think Broner would win cos he's 'G' and cos of his skin colour cos thats all they care about.


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Old 11-19-2012, 07:40 AM   #22
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You can be forgiven for thinking that – seeing as though he beat Demarco in more devastating fashion. But that argument hold little weight. It’s like saying Pac >> Mayweather because he beat Cotto and Hatton more impressively.

And if I remember correctly, Valero, despite taking longer to break him down, gave Demarco far less success than what Broner did. He also wasn’t very aggressive that night; opting to box more than he usually does.
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ok instead of being bitter faggots that are mad about Broner taking over boxing, how bout you tell me why Broner beat a better version of Demarco with greater ease, throwing less punches and actually knocing him down?? Also why don't you tell me what Valero does better than Broner? Valero never did shit but KO a buncha tomato cans. most overrated fighter ever, he woulda got picked apart by the likes of Marquez or Broner- he was one dimensional and his best win just got one upped by a 23 year old. boom
Demarco leaning in open for the uppercuts and his inactivity while leaning in had nothing to do with him getting knocked the **** out.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:16 AM   #24
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im not sure what you mean by that, i think demarco came in confident in both fights and then when he started tasting their power he got a bit discouraged after a few rounds, also not being able to hit broner added to that frustration. it's undeniable that broner ****ed him worse, Demarco looked in worse shape, got rocked more and actually got KD'd vs Broner plus stopped earlier with fewer punches.....if that's not proof of at least equal power to valero than I dunno what is....you can't use Valero's KO streak vs tomato cans as proof of anything, use the one decent fighter he fought to be the gauge and that was Demarco.
I'm finna bump this thread when the hypetrain gets derailed.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:20 AM   #25
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So...because Pac beat Hatton better than Mayweather did, that means Pac is better than Floyd? Your logic holds no weight.

Broner has good skills. But here are some things that makes Valero dangerous and serve as the right tools to knock Broner out: volume punching, underrated footwork, speed, power, heart, iron chin, good stamina, and probably his best asset: hunger.

You're not looking at Valero's talent. You're going by numbers or what you see in the record books and that's not always the whole story. Even before Broner became a champ any real boxing fan can see he has great talent. Valero was NOT one dimensional. He's not as polished or technically sound as Broner but he had what it took to knock anyone out. Pacquiao once had crude (but special) tools and look how far that got him.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:41 AM   #28
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valero was wild yes. but he was surprisingly good with his feet, and when he wanted to be, hard to hit. he was also intimidating as ****. Made his last 2 opponents quit on their stool, he had that fear factor. I loved the way he looped his hooks, made them look like they could reach round any guard.
His sparring vids show that he was much more than a crude brawler.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:15 PM   #29
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How come the people who support Valero beating Broner don't say anything to back it? Just a buncha bitter bitches mad that Broner's the truth and coming in with childish shit like Valero would **** him up and walk him down just because....ok really how? Who has Valero ever done this to for you to beleive this? Valero would be neutralized by the far better technician and picked apart. What does he do better Broner? Nothing, even his 2 best assets are equaled by Broner- power and speed. He's one dimensional and wide open. He'd get picked apart by technicians like Broner and JMM. all Valero did was knock out a bunch of tomato cans and Demarco as his career defining victory. most overrated dude ever on here, he never did shit. Just for a esecond be rational here, forget you hate Broner and just look at the facts and their skill sets and styles.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:17 PM   #30
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brits and pactards hate Broner! gonna be a terrible decade for you guys watching him rise to the top and become the face of the sport, yall might as well quit watching cause it's inevitable that he's gonna make you put fists through your walls.
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