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View Poll Results: More Skilled
Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr. 107 50.95%
Roberto "Manos De Piedra" Duran 103 49.05%
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:19 PM   #376
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He fought the wrong opponent.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:08 PM   #377
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Embarrassing posts, minus Hands of Stone's and several others.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:14 PM   #378
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Mine too right
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:17 PM   #379
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He fought the wrong opponent.


Manos Di Piedra was the man and Leonard soon found out, Also what do you consider SRL's Boxing style? Speedy slugger or Gazelle?
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He was like Ali.

Always dancing.
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Mine too right
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That said, tliang1000's posts trump everybody's.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:45 PM   #382
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You summabitch...

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Old 11-19-2012, 06:17 PM   #383
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Tez,

Clearly one of the greatest and most versatile boxer-puncher's ever. Like his form, punching technique, defense and speed (slight) over Robinson, actually. But I hate to compartmentalize and he was less instinctive, lacked the indomitable chin and paralyzing power in comparison, though he gets sold kind of short on the latter these days. SRL could light you up like a christmas tree when he planted, bent at the knees a bit and generated the extra torque through his hips and shoulders. Equally adept at shifting his weight and generating power either hand. Fast, Straight, Accurate.

All in All, a ****in thoroughbred, especially at 147. He was built for this.

Duran's win isn't shit if SRL is anything less than a beast.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:18 PM   #384
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Floyd fought more big names than Duran? Im just not even gonna get into that one. wow dude
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Leonard did fight the wrong fight in Montreal, but not the way people think. Leonard usually fought in a more aggressive, boxer-puncher manner anyway. He made a mistake by NOT changing enough against Duran and being more fleet-footed. Of course, it's hard to do so when a guy is as quick a swarmer as Duran was.

It's casual fans that think Leonard was normally some kind of dancing stick-and-move guy.

If you actually watch his fights, you'll see this isn't the case and it was the exception that he fought in this manner. Just like how it was the exception that Hagler was ultra-aggressive and came forward so much.

Why yes, I suppose years from now, people will watch the Judah and Mosley fights and conclude that Floyd was normally a guy who walked down opponents behind a high guard, and that it was "out of the norm" for him to fight in the pocket and circle his opponents.

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^ Only thing that pisses me off is when people ignore the fact that it was the fight SRL intended to bring and impose his will, skill, power and speed on. He didn't get suckered into anything, and let it be known beforehand.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:28 PM   #387
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"Duran's a heel-to-toe guy, he takes two steps to get to you. So the idea is don't give him the two steps, don't move too far away. The more distance you give Duran, the more effective he is. What you don't do against aggression is run from it, because then he picks up momentum. My guy won't run from him."

- ANGELO DUNDEE

"He's soft. Leonard's the puncher in this fight. I think he's going to knock him out in 10 or 11 rounds because Duran hasn't destroyed anybody as a Welterweight... Ray's going to nail him. Ray's going to stop him in his tracks with the jab. Leonard's got so much talent they haven't seen it yet."

- ANGELO DUNDEE




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Old 11-19-2012, 07:37 PM   #388
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I just watched Ringside: SRL and he doesn't fully admit it that it was his natural style and that he was beaten by the better man that night.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:48 PM   #389
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Leonard did fight the wrong fight in Montreal, but not the way people think. Leonard usually fought in a more aggressive, boxer-puncher manner anyway. He made a mistake by NOT changing enough against Duran and being more fleet-footed. Of course, it's hard to do so when a guy is as quick a swarmer as Duran was.

It's casual fans that think Leonard was normally some kind of dancing stick-and-move guy.

If you actually watch his fights, you'll see this isn't the case and it was the exception that he fought in this manner. Just like how it was the exception that Hagler was ultra-aggressive and came forward so much.

Why yes, I suppose years from now, people will watch the Judah and Mosley fights and conclude that Floyd was normally a guy who walked down opponents behind a high guard, and that it was "out of the norm" for him to fight in the pocket and circle his opponents.
I can't lost links on my phone but check out the Kalule fight.The commentators even talk if Ray fighting in a Joe Louis style quite early on which told me even some broadcasters were under the false impression that Ray was some sort of dancing slickster.
He plants his feet beautifully but can move from a planted stance far more effectively than most.I think some people have seen him showboat in a tribute vid and assume that was the sum total of his versatility.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:27 PM   #390
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Floyd has been fighting top 10 guys even before his first title match with Generado Henderaz.
Big difference between top ten ranked opponents when there are four belts compare to two. The pool is doubled for a start and one belt can have guys that are ranked anywhere from 1-50/60 depending on what the other belts have in their top 15.
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