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Old 11-20-2012, 02:57 AM   #16
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Sultan was a good heavyweight but could/should have done more with his career. He retired right when he should have been fighting only top heavyweights.
he retired when he realized he would never be the best HW on the planet, and to his credit, Sultan would settle for nothing less

I recall he said he thought it was ridiculous that there were so many belts and champions and that he believed there should be only one champion

from the moment he lost his strap in a poor effort, he really had nothing else to do than to retire
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:59 AM   #17
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the Micheal Moore of the 2000's
well, not really, aside from the fact they were both southaw champs

totally different styles, totally different careers, achievements

Moorer surpasses Sultan, easy
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:16 AM   #18
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iggy was a gd solid heavyweight...****er should have stayed in the game though...
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:35 AM   #19
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He drew with the immortal Ray Austin. I think that tells the story of how good he was and the era he fought in.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:30 AM   #20
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well, not really, aside from the fact they were both southaw champs

totally different styles, totally different careers, achievements

Moorer surpasses Sultan, easy
I don't like the comparison either, but Moorer ONLY surpasses Sultan due to Sultans early retirement.

H2H, Ibragimov was better in every department, EVERY.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:40 AM   #21
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He chose to have a short career and denied us the chance of seeing what he could've achieve. After the Klitschko fight, if he had stayed in shape, he could have won another belt. I consider him from the same league as Chagaev, Povetkin, etc. Much better than his brother Timor.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:44 AM   #22
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He chose to have a short career and denied us the chance of seeing what he could've achieve. After the Klitschko fight, if he had stayed in shape, he could have won another belt. I consider him from the same league as Chagaev, Povetkin, etc. Much better than his brother Timor.
They're not brothers, i don't even think they're actually related. Sultan is from Dagestan in Southern Russia and Timur from Uzbekistan i think.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:44 AM   #23
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He chose to have a short career and denied us the chance of seeing what he could've achieve. After the Klitschko fight, if he had stayed in shape, he could have won another belt. I consider him from the same league as Chagaev, Povetkin, etc. Much better than his brother Timor.
Brothers? I didnt know. Always thought they were cousins or some shit. But yeah, Sultan was the better brother.

But Tiggy, for all his faults, is still a top 30 HW. He's got grit, the kind that keeps guys like him who are slightly deficient in the skills/power/chin dept in fights. His deficiency would be too mechanical IMO, but he more than makes up for it with his tenacity.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:55 AM   #24
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A southpaw silver medalist who could have done a hell of a lot more than he did.

He started off his career using his hand speed and power to be an entertaining brawler who could whack guys out of there. When he struggled with the ordinary Ray Austin due to the fact that Austin was just so much bigger, he switched to a slippery boxing style.

If he would have integrated those styles to where he could change it up depending on the opponent, or even make adjustments in the middle of a bout, he would have been something special.

But alas, he was tired of figthing long before he quit. I remember even before he won the WBO belt we was talking about finding something else to do with his life.

But hey, more power to him, and god bless.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:57 AM   #25
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Brothers? I didnt know. Always thought they were cousins or some shit. But yeah, Sultan was the better brother.

But Tiggy, for all his faults, is still a top 30 HW. He's got grit, the kind that keeps guys like him who are slightly deficient in the skills/power/chin dept in fights. His deficiency would be too mechanical IMO, but he more than makes up for it with his tenacity.
They were neither brothers nor cousins. It was a promotional gimmick.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:02 AM   #26
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They're not brothers, i don't even think they're actually related. Sultan is from Dagestan in Southern Russia and Timur from Uzbekistan i think.
Shit I always thought they were bros.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:30 AM   #27
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I was very disappointed when Chagaev pulled out of their fight with an injury, then later when he retired. He could have made a solid career out of his abilities, but who can blame a man for walking away with his health intact and enough money to retire on? I won't be retiring at his age, that's a fact.

I was over the moon when he took Briggs' title. Incidentally, wasn't that the last time an American held a portion of the heavyweight title? It's been quite a while now if it was
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:20 AM   #28
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Olympic Silver Medalist, WBO world champion. Slick, defensively talented southpaw.
Lol wtf these kind of retarded threads always amaze me......why do you need to ask for a debate on how good Sultan Ibragimov was?!!

Unless im mistaken hes a recent fighter, theres no mystery or debate over how good he was. His record is there for all to see.

He was a middlingly semi capable EE HW who won a paper title in arguably the weakest era in HW boxing history and struggled to beat a 80 year old HW great from a tougher era in Holyfield
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:42 AM   #29
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His 'title' run was really weak and he went from an exciting KO banger to ultra defensive in terrible fights.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:44 AM   #30
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He was pretty good until Jeff Mayweather 'tweaked' his style.
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