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Old 11-20-2012, 12:49 PM   #16
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Title eliminator = mandatory! The whole HBO commentary team was harping on this when the fight was on. The corrupt WBC is now trying to reorganize it since Vitali may be retiring.
I rember it took Vitali something like 2 years to get his WBC title shot after having beat Larry Donald in a WBC eliminator. I think he took the WBC to court and won.

Stiverne and Don King would have to do the same. Seems they didn't try, for whatever reason. Interestingly Don King bid $1.1 million (twice the next highest bid) for the Arreola - Stiverne fight, seems he is still supporting Stiverne and has high hopes for him.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:54 PM   #17
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Stiverne has never even been talked about at camp as a mand. Not sure he is a mand at this time
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:00 PM   #18
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Stiverne has never even been talked about at camp as a mand. Not sure he is a mand at this time
Has Pulev?
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:01 PM   #19
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Has Pulev?
Pulev is not a mandatory he has to fight the winner of Adamek-Cunningham.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:02 PM   #20
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Has Pulev?
his name has been talked about...doesnt mean it happens, but he has been talked about in camp
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:03 PM   #21
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Pulev is not a mandatory he has to fight the winner of Adamek-Cunningham.
Isn't he ranked no.1 by the IBF?
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:04 PM   #22
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I wouldn't be surprised if Don King has some ace up his sleeve for the Stiverne - Arreola fight. I mean the fight is in freaking Venezuela if I read it right. Arreola better watch out.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:55 PM   #23
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Stiverne is garbage. Vitali would probably beat the current Bermane Stiverne even if he was 48. Stupid thread.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:09 PM   #24
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Was a title eliminator not a mandatory spot.
Pavlik had to fight two on his way towards his shot, so no.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:29 PM   #25
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his name has been talked about...doesnt mean it happens, but he has been talked about in camp
Glad to see you back.

As far as the thread, nothing the corrupt WBC does should surprise anybody nowadays.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:38 PM   #26
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Organizations use and abuse their own damn rankings however their agenda requires em to. I don't think Stiverne would do shit with VK anyway. But he draws big in his overseas fights, so odds are they were gettin paid no matter who VK fought, so why have him face his real mando?
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:43 PM   #27
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Interview with Stiverne's manager....Mandatory has grey area...!!!


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Old 11-20-2012, 02:47 PM   #28
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I rember it took Vitali something like 2 years to get his WBC title shot after having beat Larry Donald in a WBC eliminator. I think he took the WBC to court and won.

Stiverne and Don King would have to do the same. Seems they didn't try, for whatever reason. Interestingly Don King bid $1.1 million (twice the next highest bid) for the Arreola - Stiverne fight, seems he is still supporting Stiverne and has high hopes for him.
More bullshit from you. Vittles beat Donald and was in the ring with Lewis 7 months later.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:52 PM   #29
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Title eliminator = mandatory!
Not always, and quite frequently not. The IBF, for instance, always has two eliminators before the actual fight to determine the mandatory.

As mentioned elsewhere, we would have heard Don King make a giant stink if he actually was the mandatory. It was supposed to be a two-step eliminator. Stiverne lost his spot because he didn't take a fight he was supposed to (can't remember who offhand though). Now his Arreola fight is another first step of a two-step eliminator.

Besides, Stiverne sucks and has little chance of either winning or making an entertaining fight.

The better question is why Stiverne (who had beaten zero decent fighters) vs Austin (who had just lost his prior fight) was ever called any kind of eliminator to begin with.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:53 PM   #30
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Isn't he ranked no.1 by the IBF?
The winner of #1 vs #2 becomes the mandatory under IBF rules, and they pretty much always stick to that. #1 doesn't mean you're a mandatory. How most people have never noticed this, I have no clue.
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