Are iron chins born or bred?

locard · 11-20-2012, 01:44 PM

Iron chins, are you born with them or are they developed through training and fighting style?

Could it be that fighters that dont get accostumed to get punched in the face since they're kids are destined to become glass jawed frauds in the pro stage?

Examples:

Mexican fighters are famous for the quality of their chins, they're also famous for their agressive style that disregards defense for attack, the typical mexican fighter gets hit a lot, yet he also posseses a great chin so he can be succesful with that style. Mexicans barely spend time in the amateurs so they get accostumed to get punched in the face since an early age in the pro stage.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KZx_mmAAau...rQ/s1600/9.gif
mexican chin in display

On the other hand you have the cubans, most of them seem to possess fragile glass mandibles in the pro stage, they also tend to have very, very extensive amateur bgs, so they're accostumed to be protected by headgear most of their boxing lives. Cubans are proud of their skills, they dont like to get hit, and they dont get hit very often in the pros, but the moment they do, stuff like this happens:

http://i40.tinypic.com/2808tgh.gif
cuban chin in display

So what do you think? are solid chins a genetic trait? are they a by-product of getting used to get punched in the face since an early age? or maybe a combination of both factors? what's the secret behind the Haglers, Chuvalos, McCalls of the world?

orriray59 · 11-20-2012, 01:46 PM

Silly thread, sillier logic.

Hatesrats · 11-20-2012, 01:48 PM

Born.

locard · 11-20-2012, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatesrats

Born.

So let's assume Marvin Hagler was a cuban amateur who was boxing with headgear until his 30's, then becomes a pro in the U.S. Do you think his punch resistance would have been the same?

FilipMNE · 11-20-2012, 02:01 PM

Born, you can make it better with neck training but if you are sadly born with glass jaw you cant improve it to be decent.

FilipMNE · 11-20-2012, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locard

So let's assume Marvin Hagler was a cuban amateur who was boxing with headgear until his 30's, then becomes a pro in the U.S. Do you think his punch resistance would have been the same?

When Hagler is in question he is absolutely born with iron chin no mater if he boxed with headgear or not he had iron chin.
many of guys here act like amateur headgear protects chin suggestion for you put it on and let boxer hit you on the jaw with a straight punch, you will find out there is no difference.
Tyson had very good chin and got dropped in sparring with headgear on!!

JDK · 11-20-2012, 02:46 PM

lol this guy thinks headgear is to protect that chin
Very weak thread and logic/reasoning

The Mangler · 11-20-2012, 02:49 PM

Born. You can build up your body, neck, legs, defense, etc to help you take punches better. But flat out takin bombs flush is just sumthin that comes natural. It's more about your mentality than anything else.

locard · 11-20-2012, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FilipMNE

When Hagler is in question he is absolutely born with iron chin no mater if he boxed with headgear or not he had iron chin.
many of guys here act like amateur headgear protects chin suggestion for you put it on and let boxer hit you on the jaw with a straight punch, you will find out there is no difference.
Tyson had very good chin and got dropped in sparring with headgear on!!

It protects it partially, and it makes taking hits to the head overall much easier, the gloves and the padding are smaller in the pros too. But this is not only about headgear and gloves. There's also the amateur mentality, they're more concerned about defense and technical aspects than the pros. Pros know a good punch can reverse the result in any fight and the matches are much longer so even if they lose some rounds they know they can turn the tide, not the same with amateurs. You dont see guys trying to grind down their opponents to KO them late or taking two punches to land a good one, etc in the amateurs.

Peppermint · 11-20-2012, 03:40 PM

Most of the time it comes down to defense. But of course some fighter are able to absorb punches better than others

lepinthehood · 11-20-2012, 03:54 PM

ye born i think, dont think kahn and others dont put loads of training on there neck

dyna · 11-20-2012, 04:51 PM

Born, but can be trained to a certain extent.

You can train your muscles that help absorb punches, but you can't change the shape of your jaw or head or size of your head.

Beeston Brawler · 11-20-2012, 06:10 PM

A bit of both.

Some weak chinned fighters get stopped less often than what they might because of good conditioning/defence etc, and some iron chinned guys get stopped because they neglect defence and just allow themselves to be hit with hard shots repeatedly.

Kid Cincinnati · 11-20-2012, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locard

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KZx_mmAAau...rQ/s1600/9.gif
mexican chin in display

This gif.

perspicacity · 11-20-2012, 07:53 PM

Probably a bit of both.

Chuvalo spent a lot of time training to absorb punches ....

View Poll Results: Iron chins, born or bred?
An iron chin is a genetic trait	34	64.15%
Iron chins are developed	1	1.89%
They're a combination of the above-mentioned factors	10	18.87%
You cant generalize. Chins are complex and must be examined on a case by case basis	8	15.09%
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11-20-2012, 01:44 PM	#1
locard Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,675 vCash: 495	Are iron chins born or bred? Iron chins, are you born with them or are they developed through training and fighting style? Could it be that fighters that dont get accostumed to get punched in the face since they're kids are destined to become glass jawed frauds in the pro stage? Examples: Mexican fighters are famous for the quality of their chins, they're also famous for their agressive style that disregards defense for attack, the typical mexican fighter gets hit a lot, yet he also posseses a great chin so he can be succesful with that style. Mexicans barely spend time in the amateurs so they get accostumed to get punched in the face since an early age in the pro stage. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KZx_mmAAau...rQ/s1600/9.gif mexican chin in display On the other hand you have the cubans, most of them seem to possess fragile glass mandibles in the pro stage, they also tend to have very, very extensive amateur bgs, so they're accostumed to be protected by headgear most of their boxing lives. Cubans are proud of their skills, they dont like to get hit, and they dont get hit very often in the pros, but the moment they do, stuff like this happens: http://i40.tinypic.com/2808tgh.gif cuban chin in display So what do you think? are solid chins a genetic trait? are they a by-product of getting used to get punched in the face since an early age? or maybe a combination of both factors? what's the secret behind the Haglers, Chuvalos, McCalls of the world?
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11-20-2012, 01:46 PM	#2
orriray59 weird East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The Green Isle Posts: 13,200 vCash: 82	Re: Are iron chins born or bred? Silly thread, sillier logic.
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11-20-2012, 01:48 PM	#3
Hatesrats "Al Grito De Guerra" East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 25,924 vCash: 0	Re: Are iron chins born or bred? Born.
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FilipMNE Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Montenegro Posts: 4,124 vCash: 461	Re: Are iron chins born or bred? Born, you can make it better with neck training but if you are sadly born with glass jaw you cant improve it to be decent.
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11-20-2012, 02:46 PM	#7
JDK Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,107 vCash: 675	Re: Are iron chins born or bred? lol this guy thinks headgear is to protect that chin Very weak thread and logic/reasoning
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The Mangler Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 394 vCash: 500	Re: Are iron chins born or bred? Born. You can build up your body, neck, legs, defense, etc to help you take punches better. But flat out takin bombs flush is just sumthin that comes natural. It's more about your mentality than anything else.
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Peppermint Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,841 vCash: 500	Re: Are iron chins born or bred? Most of the time it comes down to defense. But of course some fighter are able to absorb punches better than others
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lepinthehood Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 593 vCash: 500	Re: Are iron chins born or bred? ye born i think, dont think kahn and others dont put loads of training on there neck
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dyna Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,502 vCash: 1551	Re: Are iron chins born or bred? Born, but can be trained to a certain extent. You can train your muscles that help absorb punches, but you can't change the shape of your jaw or head or size of your head.
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Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: trying to increase my overdraft.... Posts: 35,217 vCash: 75	Re: Are iron chins born or bred? A bit of both. Some weak chinned fighters get stopped less often than what they might because of good conditioning/defence etc, and some iron chinned guys get stopped because they neglect defence and just allow themselves to be hit with hard shots repeatedly.
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11-20-2012, 07:53 PM	#15
perspicacity Raising The Bar ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Nags Head Posts: 4,229 vCash: 180000	Re: Are iron chins born or bred? Probably a bit of both. Chuvalo spent a lot of time training to absorb punches ....
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