Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1)

KuRuPT · 11-20-2012, 04:42 PM

who wins?

lora · 11-20-2012, 04:47 PM

Charles would beat the shit out of him.

Jones lost a lot dropping back down.It's just Tarver was never very good and couldn't initially take advantage of his taking rests every round, often against the ropes.

MagnaNasakki · 11-20-2012, 04:52 PM

No way Jones has enough to go 15.

Charles would easily outlast him and take care of business late.

RockyJim · 11-20-2012, 06:29 PM

The Charles of the first Marciano fight in 1954 pounds the shit out of RJJ...

red cobra · 11-20-2012, 06:53 PM

I echo the sentiment of Charles beating the shit out of Jones. The Charles of the 1st Marciano fight was the opposite of a part-time cop/postman/bum fighting front-running cherry-picker like Jones Jr.

Nightcrawler · 11-20-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

No way Jones has enough to go 15.

Charles would easily outlast him and take care of business late.

this...agreed 100%

Nightcrawler · 11-20-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by red cobra

I echo the sentiment of Charles beating the shit out of Jones. The Charles of the 1st Marciano fight was the opposite of a part-time cop/postman/bum fighting front-running cherry-picker like Jones Jr.

come on red, don't make me come at you like a goddamn wolverine!! you're fucking with my boy

mr. magoo · 11-20-2012, 09:14 PM

Prime for prime its a good match, but that 2003 version of Jones was in bad shape and had fallen down a very steep cliff fast. Ezzard has to be favored.

Nightcrawler · 11-20-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. magoo

Prime for prime its a good match, but that 2003 version of Jones was in bad shape and had fallen down a very steep cliff fast. Ezzard has to be favored.

if tarver can shave 4 rounds off that roy, just what could a heavyweight version of charles do...

red cobra · 11-21-2012, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightcrawler

come on red, don't make me come at you like a goddamn wolverine!! you're fucking with my boy

Relax Nightcrawler...Roy's a great guy...he's just being compared to my man Ezzard Charles...and there's no fighter I admire more than the warrior who went 15 with the Rock like he did.

Bummy Davis · 11-21-2012, 12:02 PM

Charles by a brutal KO

Brownies · 11-21-2012, 12:14 PM

Charles of the first Marciano fight was better than Tarver by a good enough margin to pick him.

NoNeck · 11-21-2012, 12:18 PM

Jones of the Ruiz fight might fare better.

the cobra · 11-21-2012, 12:33 PM

To be fair, Charles was well and clear on the slide himself by the time he fought Marciano. I don't think he'd have too easy of a time dealing with even this version of Jones. Still, he should be favored, and by knockout.

SuzieQ49 · 11-21-2012, 12:56 PM

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To be fair, Charles was well and clear on the slide himself by the time he fought Marciano

Charles was past his prime, but he showed up probably in the best shape he had been in since he lost the title...and was hungrier than he had been in years. Charles of june 17th 1954 probably fought his best fight since maybe 1951. I am talking specifically about the Charles of the first marciano fight, he was an amazing fighter that night..fast, skilled, crafty, couragious, unbelievable stamina, great chin.

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KuRuPT Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,600 vCash: 500	Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1) who wins?
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lora Fighting Zapata East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5,454 vCash: 500	Re: Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1) Charles would beat the shit out of him. Jones lost a lot dropping back down.It's just Tarver was never very good and couldn't initially take advantage of his taking rests every round, often against the ropes.
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MagnaNasakki Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,820 vCash: 1000	Re: Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1) No way Jones has enough to go 15. Charles would easily outlast him and take care of business late.
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RockyJim Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,268 vCash: 1000	Re: Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1) The Charles of the first Marciano fight in 1954 pounds the shit out of RJJ...
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red cobra P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 22,206 vCash: 1000	Re: Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1) I echo the sentiment of Charles beating the shit out of Jones. The Charles of the 1st Marciano fight was the opposite of a part-time cop/postman/bum fighting front-running cherry-picker like Jones Jr.
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mr. magoo Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 12,517 vCash: 1000	Re: Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1) Prime for prime its a good match, but that 2003 version of Jones was in bad shape and had fallen down a very steep cliff fast. Ezzard has to be favored.
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Bummy Davis Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 8,193 vCash: 1000	Re: Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1) Charles by a brutal KO
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Brownies Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,407 vCash: 500	Re: Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1) Charles of the first Marciano fight was better than Tarver by a good enough margin to pick him.
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NoNeck Pugilist Specialist ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,552 vCash: 500	Re: Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1) Jones of the Ruiz fight might fare better.
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11-21-2012, 12:33 PM	#14
the cobra Awesomeizationism! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,991 vCash: 1000	Re: Charles (Marciano 1) vs. Roy Jones (Tarver 1) To be fair, Charles was well and clear on the slide himself by the time he fought Marciano. I don't think he'd have too easy of a time dealing with even this version of Jones. Still, he should be favored, and by knockout.
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