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Old 11-20-2012, 06:50 PM   #1
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Default The WBA is absolutley GARBAGE , Lebedev vs ....?

I will make this clear, in no way, do i blame Denis Lebedev, he is being dicked around beyond belief.

Fraudnews.com reports - Russian Denis Lebedev (24-1, 18 KOs) could be defending his WBA cruiserweight world title against unbeaten Colombian prospect Santander Silgado (23-0, 18 KOs) on December 17

Lebedev was WBA interim champ and originally slated to face the WBA regular world champion Guillermo Jones
but the WBA declared Jones champion in recess
then installed Lebedev as regular champion

Heres a look at how FRAUD works in the boxing world but then again is it fraud if no one cares?

Santander Silgado age 27
23-0 (18 KO)
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Colombia (WBA red flag alert)

instead of listing all the really shit opponents he has beaten, i will list the records of the 9 guys he fought with winning records

2012-10-27 Joell Godfrey 15-8-1 (BOXREC RATING # 127)
2012-08-11 Joell Godfrey 14-7-1 (Lost 3 out of last 6 fights)
2012-03-24 Willie Herring 13-9-3 (3 wins in last 11 fights)
2012-02-03 Hugo Abad 22-9-1 (BOXREC RATING # 416)
2011-12-15 Glen Williams 7-5-1 (BOXREC RATING # 430)
2009-01-24 Cesar Heredia 5-1-1 (BOXREC RATING # 487)
2008-04-19 Lawrence Chapman 19-4-2 (1 win in last 6 fights)
2007-12-15 Carlos Javier Roldan 14-7-0 (Lost 4 out of last 6 fights)
2004-10-16 Pedro Fuentes 7-4-1 (8 years ago who cares)

sarcastic side note
hopefully both fighters can have random extra testing , because this is what is needed to clean the sport up, not corrupt sanctioning bodies, who at some point will control testing anyway
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:54 PM   #2
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this is just sad
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:02 PM   #3
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Default Re: The WBA is absolutley GARBAGE , Lebedev vs ....?

the only way to punish a piece of shit body like the WBA is to not fight for their belt.
It has ruined Guillermo Jones so far, Lebedev is on that track too. fought once this year against 16-1 Shawn Cox whos record of cans resembled this Colombians.

Huck has had 6 WBO title fights since Lebedev
Lebedev has had 2 WBA "interim" title fights since Huck

iIts kind of a problem when you have up to 3 "champions" in the WBA in each division and they some how cant get together and fight each other once in a while and unify their own ****ing title
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:28 PM   #4
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WBA is about as legit as IBO or something now. Sad.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:33 PM   #5
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Default Re: The WBA is absolutley GARBAGE , Lebedev vs ....?

all of these commissions are a joke
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:44 AM   #6
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unbeaten #8 rated challenger Santander Silgado (23-0, 18 KOs) from Brooklyn, NY by way of Colombia

lets see....he doesnt win a round, or is KO'd in less than 3 rounds
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:46 AM   #7
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These fukin abc belts are ruining these warriors careers. WBA should be the worst of big four.

This sucks plain and simple.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:52 AM   #8
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These fukin abc belts are ruining these warriors careers. WBA should be the worst of big four.

This sucks plain and simple.
which WBA sucks?

WBA regular?
WBA interim?
WBA super champion?

nah we get the point
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:20 PM   #9
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i am shocked how well dude did....made it all the way to the 4th round before going to sleep.......WOW. 25 years ago you had to beat a top 10 guy to get a shot. Now you dont even have to beat a guy in the top 100 to get a crack at one of the ABC belts


2012-10-27 Joell Godfrey 15-8-1 (BOXREC RATING # 127)
2012-08-11 Joell Godfrey 14-7-1 (Lost 3 out of last 6 fights)
2012-03-24 Willie Herring 13-9-3 (3 wins in last 11 fights)
2012-02-03 Hugo Abad 22-9-1 (BOXREC RATING # 416)
2011-12-15 Glen Williams 7-5-1 (BOXREC RATING # 430)
2009-01-24 Cesar Heredia 5-1-1 (BOXREC RATING # 487)
2008-04-19 Lawrence Chapman 19-4-2 (1 win in last 6 fights)
2007-12-15 Carlos Javier Roldan 14-7-0 (Lost 4 out of last 6 fights)
2004-10-16 Pedro Fuentes 7-4-1 (8 years ago who cares)
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:27 PM   #10
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Default Re: The WBA is absolutley GARBAGE , Lebedev vs ....?

Suppose it's no worse than fighting shot to shit Jones Jr and Toney.

Jones needs to be stripped of his title, he ducks every Tom, Dick and Harry
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:36 PM   #11
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Default Re: The WBA is absolutley GARBAGE , Lebedev vs ....?

How does the WBA belt ruin fighter's careers? There is nothing stopping Lebedev from fighting the big names in the division.

The WBA let Jones get away with all kinds of shit. They are from Panama, he's from Panama. Says it all. His WBA CW title run is one of the most pathetic in history. Even worse than Cleverly's and Shumenov's at LHW.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:41 PM   #12
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the only way to punish a piece of shit body like the WBA is to not fight for their belt.
It has ruined Guillermo Jones so far, Lebedev is on that track too. fought once this year against 16-1 Shawn Cox whos record of cans resembled this Colombians.

Huck has had 6 WBO title fights since Lebedev
Lebedev has had 2 WBA "interim" title fights since Huck

iIts kind of a problem when you have up to 3 "champions" in the WBA in each division and they some how cant get together and fight each other once in a while and unify their own ****ing title
Jones backed out of 3 unification fights against Lebedev he was supposed to have and after the most recent one they finally stripped him. The inactiviy is in large part due to that since the fight was actually signed 2x before Jones pulled out. Hopefully he can start getting real fights now like the Chambers one.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:52 PM   #13
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Silgado is still young he could still become a contender again
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:07 PM   #14
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Haha, now even the WBA Super is pissed poor! **** you World Boxing Association, crappy shit!
First the Regular which wasn't even a world title and now this. It's all about the Money, isn't it?
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:30 PM   #15
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iIts kind of a problem when you have up to 3 "champions" in the WBA in each division and they some how cant get together and fight each other once in a while and unify their own ****ing title
No doubt. I can probably look the other way and give a pass to a organization trying to keep things in house, run their own boxing brand on the side without much involvement with other organizations, but they can't even do that right! Too many titles!

I bet most fighters just show up to fight and get a cheque, when all of a sudden they get handed a belt after.

"What's this?"

"You are now the WBA regular champion!"

"Whatever man."
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