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Marquez Points 6 33.33%
Marquez Stoppage 1 5.56%
Pacquiao Points 8 44.44%
Pacquiao Stoppage 2 11.11%
Draw 1 5.56%
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:54 AM   #16
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i can't believe i actually enjoyed the 1st 24 7. I didn't think i would.

People on here forget that this will go down as one of the greatest rivaliries in the sports history.

And we're lucky that both fighters still have enough left to give us a 4th war.

This is lost on alot of people because the fact that they like mayweather they can't appreciate manny as well.

One of many reasons why floyd is a cancer to our sport.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:57 AM   #17
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This is lost on alot of people because the fact that they like mayweather they can't appreciate manny as well.

One of many reasons why floyd is a cancer to our sport.
There it is, somebody bringing Mayweather into this thread.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:58 AM   #18
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"WBO champion of the decade belt" lmao
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:01 AM   #19
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There it is, somebody bringing Mayweather into this thread.

its the reason why alot of fans (losely said) can't appreciate this fight and rivalry.

And every negative comment about this match up will be because of this.

I'm just saying i feel bad for people that can't appreciate this rivalry
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:02 AM   #20
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"WBO champion of the decade belt" lmao

i agree.

Its embarrassing.

Worse than all the silver, and super titles.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:18 AM   #21
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Manny more versatile than JMM?



I don't think so mate.
Can expand on that. How many ways does JMM fight?

he does the same things every fight, he boxes, if pressured he counter punches whilst trading.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:28 AM   #22
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Can expand on that. How many ways does JMM fight?

he does the same things every fight, he boxes, if pressured he counter punches whilst trading.

he makes slight adjustments.

Take the 1st pac fight. He made adjustments after the 2nd round that meant manny couldnt catch him with the same shots.

Also the diaz fight is a good example.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:52 AM   #23
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he makes slight adjustments.



Take the 1st pac fight. He made adjustments after the 2nd round that meant manny couldnt catch him with the same shots.



Also the diaz fight is a good example.
when I talk about versatility, am talking about style of fighting. eventhough he made adjustments it was still the same. He did fight differently vs Diaz, I haven't ignored it, I didn't say JMM fights only one way.
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:39 AM   #24
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:19 PM   #25
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Good accurate ratings. Hoping that Pac turns back the clock as the Pac that fought Bradley gets shutout 12-0 imo. Even if Pac turns back time though, this match is mainly a case of strategy. As Roach said, they need to throw out the window everything they tried before and just go in there and risk it, guns blazing. Pac will not beat JMM in a chess match.

JMM has Pac's movements figured out and has certain reflexes and reactions that nullify Pac's attack.
They say every great fighter has one last great performance left in him, maybe that was pacquiao's last great performance, even that version doesn't beat JMM 12-0, that version, would not win more than 8, would suprise me if he won more than 7
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:48 PM   #26
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Old 11-23-2012, 02:02 PM   #27
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Old 11-23-2012, 02:03 PM   #28
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You really put much effort into this, mate, kudos. Very intelligently done too. I agree with most of your analysis, except on the versatility thing--which is JM's patented asset.

As for prediction, I see at least one KD. Pac wins another close, hard fight.
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Old 11-23-2012, 02:08 PM   #29
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You really put much effort into this, mate, kudos. Very intelligently done too. I agree with most of your analysis, except on the versatility thing--which is JM's patented asset.

As for prediction, I see at least one KD. Pac wins another close, hard fight.
Thanks.

With Versatility I rated it different styles used during fights, JMM adjusts in fight tremendously but still uses the same style, however pacquiao has changed his style alot fight to fight, JMM fights similarly in every fight, Adjustments during fights doesn't mean versatility in my opinion, that's more to do with Ring IQ in my opinion.

KD by who, am assuming Pacquiao.
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