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Ali is overrated, and overhyped as not only a fighter, but as a person. I seen him fight, live 3 times, many times on film, so those saying "A troll, never seen him fight...." shove it.
He needed judges to give him Norton bouts, he needed refs to let him hold more than Wlad K., and he had media backing him. He was good, talented, but no where near as great as built up to be. |
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Journeyman
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He is underrated....he is far greater than his legend.
I have often wondered what god like status Ali would have held if he died in a plane carsh or similar after the third Frazier... Quite rightly he is revered a the god of boxing today |
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Mean People Kick Ass!
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The Silent Warrior (Mohammed Ali)
There live a great man named Joe who was belittled by a loudmouth foe. While his rival would taunt and tease Joe silently bore the stings. And then fought like gladiator in the ring. For every struggle that Joe survived, For every dispute he endured, to rise, Joe will go down in history as a model for champions to come. While Frazier was a man of few words, Ali was a world of mouth, but he found his place in history. Now his heart can express him well. Joe Frazier was a silent warrior, whom Ali silently admired. One could not rise without the other. |
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boogidy boogidy boogidy
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![]() ....and don't start with the glove against Henry Cooper, because if anyone cheated there it was Angelo Dundee, not Ali. Failure to explain how Ali "cheated' like you claim will be an admission you are trolling. Your move
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Ali cheated many ways, what makes it worse, ref let it go on. Examples: Thumbing Ernie Terell repeatedly, holding against everyone excessively, and not breaking when ref gave order, chocking in clinch with forearm to throat (Frazier, Chuvalo, Foreman)
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I've seen the Terrell fight multiple times and there was never any "thumbing" going on, especially "repeatedly" ... Terrell claimed that Ali did "thumb" him but it was most likely unintentional
Every fighter does that kind of shit ... Tyson used to throw elbows in clinches and hit after the bell ... Lewis would hold and hit ... Wlad literally bear hugs and tries to wrestle guys to the ground ... Foreman got away with more pushing than anyone I've ever seen .. Holmes would thumb guys ... Spinks would elbow guys as well ... I can go on and on Nitpicking pedantic faggots will exaggerate this kind of stuff and call it "cheating" ... especially holding which is part of the sport ... this happens in boxing where guys try and gain every advantage they can ... it may be in violation of the rules but its not "cheating" |
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